Terry Colorado <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 09:27PM -0700
Great work Mickey; you got me? I got you bro; while exposing me … you
exposed yourself. At first, mother fucker you were my hero … and i would
have bought your bitch ass tickets; but you let me down brother. Now what?
Once major exception; do not lump me in with that sorryass organization
that ran power inn wellness. I'm true blue Sacsterdam Collective inc, a
non-profit; mutual benefit corporation; bro. i've got the paperwork to
prove it.
You can catch my page at www.facebook.com/sacsterdam
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jeff j <s..[email protected]> Jun 28 10:06PM -0700
Cannabis and Man kind have had a symbiotic relation since creation! It always has been medicine even if you think it is just social…. The Government is about control and they protect and serve the fictional commercial money system. cannabis and all war is a war on nature and to impose synthetics … Obama care is not about health care it is about controlling the U.S. #1 resource the people that are the Equity of the Government machine… Cannabis is considered a commercial crime against revenue laws and the DEA was created under the Department of the treasury go figure … People are totally clueless what is going on and all the arguing is not fixing the real crux of the issue… we the people have to take control of the Republic again.Voting in the fictional Democracy know as The UNITED STATES is nothing more then voting for your favorite corporation that does not represent you. The republic died at the civil war and the ending of the gold standard was the final nail in the coffin….the 14th amendment and then the New deal implemented a legal fiction society and the people are considered its product this has nothing to do with the real republic aka we the people … the Democracy is the matrix that has us all blind to the true nature of existence.
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"andrew garret" <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 08:07PM -0700
Not that anyone really cares, but I just found out that "Dollar Tree" is
selling MARIHUANA Home Drug Test's for only a dollar. . . . something
call EasyScreen, and they claim that is is 97% accuracy.
What won't they think of next.
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Terry Colorado <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 07:14PM -0700
Yeah … BUT … the initiative you are working on Mickey only allows a
limited number of dispensaries isn't that correct; 25 instead of the 80+
that used to distribute? Restrictive permitting.
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On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Mickey Martin
Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 08:05PM -0700
Actually dumbass, it allows for one for every 25,000 people. It also
increases the number from zero, which it is now, to over 20….and it lifts
the ban on patient and collective cultivation. It also allows for the BoS
to allow for more. You have zero idea of what you speak, and the definition
of "permitting" in itself implies restrictions.
Still haven't found your real name yet, eh coward?
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"s..[email protected]" <s..[email protected]> Jun 28 10:11PM -0700
The transaction is not taxed. The income earned from it is. That is
incorporated into the price…
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Mickey,
Shit that is sold on the "wholesale" level is not taxed.
Bill McPike
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:57 AM
Cannabis is not food. It is also not a prescription drug. If a person is
"growing crops" then they are not taxed, until the crop is SOLD. Shit that
is sold is taxed. End of story.
You say "WE are supposed to be the government." Well then WE have our head
up our asses. But the reality is that "WE" are about 10-13% of the society
we live in. WE are outnumbered by a long shot. So it doesn't matter what
utopian unicorn philosophy WE come up with because WE do not have the
numbers to back it up.
This is a stupid argument….weed will be legal and it will be taxed and
people will eventually quit going to jail for weed…..live with it.
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Pebbles Trippet <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 08:01AM -0700
In People v Mower, the Supremes ruled that marijuana is "no more
illegal than" prescription drugs and should be treated the same.
Mower's conviction was voided.
The Mower court did not say marijuana should not be taxed; taxation
was not at issue.
But there is that implication.
Since prescription medicine is not taxed in this country, except in
Illinois,
if Ca decides to regulate and tax as a matter of law, it could be used
as precedent to apply a new tax
to other medicines based on equal protection, introducing another
layer of hostility toward medical cannabis.
Taxation on full legalization, but not medicine, avoids that issue…
Home gardens not being subject to regulation avoids another level of
complaints.
pebbles
Tom Davenport <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 03:00PM -0700
Mickey, all that fast food must be hardening the arteries in yer head
if you believe raw, herbal cannabis is not food
Fresh (undried) RAW cannabis is a whole 'nother ball game from
cooked. Water leaves, or other leaves, can be incorporated into
salads and benefit w/out buzz. Anyone experiencing the inevitable
aches and pains of an aging body will benefit from this.
Even immature bud, uncooked, seems to produce little, if any, buzz.
Use an oil containing dressing – helps our humanoid digestion digest
the cellulose.
Both fresh leaf and immature bud work well juiced into smoothies with
Wheat Grass and Purslane – making it taste tolerable is the main
challenge. You can find out about wheat grass juices' nutritional
benefits pretty easy. Purslane is less well known in this context.
It's very high in C complex vitamins and, in combination w. wheat
grass juice and fresh cannabis, will make your body feel a whole lot
better than it did before drinking it.
While it is highly possible to make these smoothies actually taste
good, rather than just endurable, it takes additional inputs of
apples, other fruits/berries and banana (for sweetness/body) to do
it. Assembling the ingredients in the 'right' sequence also
influences how well the recipe works. Acerola C powder and Modified
Citrus Pectin are also good in the smoothies, but have to be added at
the right stage sequentially to get them to mix well. Don't overlook
Chocolate – in addition to its well known delights, it also has the
ability to help disguise disagreeable flavors. Most commercial
chocolate is loaded w. added sugar and other unhealthy crap, so
caveat emptor on that. Carob powder would be worth experimenting
with but I've not done it.
It was an accidental discovery finding out that ingesting dried trim
shake will give you a bit of buzz if it's been sitting around a while
– I put some in a (winter) smoothie and was shocked that I got a mild
buzz. Apparently CBD converts to THC even at mild room temps after
sitting around a while.
Most outdoor growers I know munch on leaves while working in the
garden. You get used to the flavor, which is spicy; not any spicier
than Roquette/Arugula in a salad. Of course, I'm referring to
organic herb here.
We're not into poisoning ourselves, others and the environment like
the ChemDawg growers, both indoors and out, who would need a brain
transplant if ill informed enough to eat, vaporize or smoke anything
that's been sprayed w. Avid or any of a host of other toxic chemicals
that flakey growers use.
On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:44 AM, Terry Colorado wrote:
Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 06:48AM -0700
The fundraising pitch…"We are not like the rest of them. Give us your
money. I am just a poor attorney looking to donate hundreds of thousands of
dollars of legal help to patients in need….but hoping one day to collect
private attorneys fees from patients and providers…."
For the record, we are finishing up an effort to qualify a ballot
initiative in Sacramento County that *lifts a ban on a patient's right to
cultivate*, as well as *expands access in Sacramento County*. "Crusader for
Patients Rights" director Lanette Davies owns a dispensary in Sacramento.
They have to date provided ZERO resources in the way of funding or manpower
to this effort. So DO NOT BELIEVE THE HYPE. If they were really "crusading
for patients rights" supporting an effort to lift a ban on every patients'
right to cultivate would be a no brainer. No such luck, no such support.
As for picketing when a person's club is taken…..I do not recall anyone
asking for support on this effort. I do recall you shutting down in Novato,
correct? From a landlord letter, correct? Did you guys organize a response
that did not get responded too? I do not recall hearing about it, but would
be happy to organize one with you any time and work on a response.
Be Well…Mickey
> Dan Rush said:
> Mickey is right. You want a no-taxed prescription environment… welcome
> to
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David Fiedler <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 02:34PM -0700
> arthritis who get fast pain relief by just using alcohol in which cannabis
> leaves have been soaked — an old Mexican remedy that works, and is CHEAP
> and doesn't hurt your liver or kidneys.
Just as an aside to the bitter wrangling here, that there remedy is
actually the origin of the slang term "pot" according to something that's
been floating around the interwebz: "Pot comes from the Spanish word
Potiguaya, which means Marijuana Leaves. It’s a Mexican-Spanish word that
is a contraction of potación de guaya, which referred to an alcoholic drink
made of marijuana leaves soaked in Brandy or Wine. The name became popular
in the United States in the late 1930s."
Letitia Pepper <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 12:52PM -0700
(1) I never said I was filing a CEQA lawsuit against Sacramento County, so don't hold your breath, and
(2) Lanette Davies said "We don't want an unruly group opening up all across the city; we want
safe access for patients. When they open, we want to know
they're doing the right thing. One bad apple can make the whole group
look bad."
Saying you want reasonable regulations for safe access is NOT the same as saying you want to limit the NUMBER of dispensaries.
CSPARC Sacramento <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 01:14PM -0700
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Unfortunately it looks like we will likely come up short for making the
November Ballot. That is the bad news. We needed 42,300 signatures and we
came up with about 25,000 and still counting, so far. The reality is that
we never had enough money and the money we did have was too little too
late. It has been a rough time for fundraising and the eight statewide
petitions that we were competing with were overwhelming. We needed to have
our signatures in by Monday at the latest to ensure we made the cutoff for
the November ballot. We missed that goal.
THE GOOD NEWS…We still have until July 23rd to get the signatures we need
to make a future ballot. It would take a bold and unified effort from the
activist community to make it happen. Believe we have not given up by any
means; but WE NEED HELP. LIKE NOW!
We need at least another 40-50,000 signatures to qualify this. It sounds
like a lot. The reality is that it is; but it is FAR FROM IMPOSSIBLE. I am
not sure if there is any renewed sense of urgency in the patient and
activist community in CA and in Sacramento, but if you ever wanted to step
up and do your part to make cannabis more accessible for patients and help
us lift the ban on patient and collective cultivation in Sac County, YOU
MUST ACT NOW!
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We unfortunately cannot afford to pay signature gatherers any longer, as
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this initiative in the near future; but we do have a lot of good incentives
for activists and volunteers who want to help us keep going.
It continues to be a great campaign. We have seen and learned a lot about
the community and have been very grateful from the response we
have received by most all. It has been refreshing to be a part of. Much of
the patient and activist community has come together to find a more unified
voice. It is inspiring. We understand the magnitude of the project we have
taken on and hope we can finish it off with a great last push from the
dedicated Sacramento patient community,
BUT YOU MUST GET OFF THE COUCH AND COLLECT SOME SIGNATURES NOW IF WE WANT
THIS TO HAPPEN. That is the bottom line. We are well on our way, but we
will need some hard work and dedication over the next weeks to qualify the
Patients Access to Regulated Medical Cannabis Act for a future ballot. A
miracle is not likely to happen; but a SOLID EFFORT from a passionate and
unified community could still get us to our ultimate goal of patient access
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Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 29 10:49AM -0700
Chess with pigeons…..Lanette Davies has ALWAYS supported limiting who can
operate:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=123095
For many years, roughly five dispensaries operated in the city of
> safe access for patients," Davies said. "When they open, we want to know
> they're doing the right thing. One bad apple can make the whole group look
> bad."
She use ASA as a platform to try and edge out the other dispensaries there.
Let us not try to change history on the CnnaCare legacy now.
And this in support of the ordinance:
http://calpotnews.com/sacramento-city-council-drops-cap-on-dispensaries/
Lanette Davies, co-director of Canna Care dispensary, called the agreement
> community than anyone ever has,” she said. “They set this up to look after
> the safety of the communities and also took the time to make sure the
> dispensaries are safe.”
BTW, all of Sac County is waiting for you to file that lawsuit then. You
should really get to know the groups you promote, though.
Your hyperbole just does not hold water. Sorry.
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David Malmo-Levine <s..[email protected]> Jun 28 10:25PM -0700
I agree that med pot distributors should not be making millions. But I
think doctors and lawyers should also not make millions for the same reason
– nobody's "services" are worth that much. The people most loudly calling
for limits on profits in the pot industry stop at the pot industry and
never ever discuss the industry they belong to – for obvious reasons.
On 2012-06-28 9:55 PM, <s..[email protected]> wrote:
it is way more than a decent living when collective "owners" personally
share with me some millions of $$ they are working on laundering. So,
plenty of collective owners are making way, way more than a fair wage.
But this issue aside, the collective model was never to be pounds in and
pounds out. The growers are to be a part of the collective and provide
their services and expenses to the collective. The current model in the
stores is no where close to "compassionate". Flowers are being purchased
for $1800 and resold in the collectives for nearly $7k/pound when you see
the $75 eights and even more.
I would love people to begin sharing any collectives who are following this
model. The collective needs to be growing all their own flowers or have
members of their collective that grow under a legal Designation Letter from
the management of the collective. Ideally, all the growers' flowers would
be distributed inside the collective.
It is huge cash profits and deviance from the intention of the collective
model that has led to the downfall of so many stores. The physicians have
cooperated by making a mockery of the "Recommendation Letter".
I wish I felt better about what has happened, but I just don't see a bright
future for the current model.
Allan I Frankel, MD
> Date: Thu, June 28, 2012 8:52 am
> To: savecannabis@a2…
> "The right to make a living is what legalization is all about" FYI,
people are allowed to make a …
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>> Subject: [Save Cannabis] Those who argu…
>> Shame on you "activists" that would deny the pioneers of the cannabis
movement a decent living. Y…
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