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July 13, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 21 Messages in 9 Topics

    s..[email protected] Jul 14 03:07AM  

    I confer with everything Letitia said: we the "no tax, no regulate" folk have been experiencing censorship by NORML, Save Cannabis, Hash Bash planners etc.
     
    I think it time for all of us to recognize that it is primarily Obama who is escalating the War on Cannabis Producers and Consumers. And while I do have problems with Harborside, and DeAngelo, I do support this following upcoming demonstration when Obama comes to Oakland:
     
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    The federal attacks on the medical cannabis community keep coming. Recently, the Department of Justice announced their intention to confiscate two buildings operated by Harborside Health Center in Oakland, CA and in San Jose, CA. This latest attack comes on the heels of other raids, audits, and other intimidation around the state.
     
    Can you please join us on Monday, July 23, to tell President Obama to stop attacking California's medical cannabis patients, cultivators, and providers when he visits the Fox Theater in downtown Oakland?
     
    Harborside Health Center (HHC), Americans For Safe Access (ASA), and others are calling for a peaceful protest to let the President know we want him to stop the federal attack!
     
    Mark your calendar for MONDAY, JULY 23, right now!! The approximate time is 3:30 pm.
    We will be sending more details soon – including ways to shuttle in patients from outside the area.
     
    http://www.facebook.com/events(phone#-removed)988/
     
    PLEASE SIGN UP HERE FOR MORE ACTION ALERTS:
    http://ow.ly/ceiEe
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    I can't make the trip out to Oakland but please make sure every activist you know is aware and attending this protest. Yes DeAngelo and I have our differences but this transcends all of that. It is time for the beginning of the "Great Evolution." And it starts by unmasking Obama for what he is: a Globalist Corporate WHORE!
     
    Frankly this should mark the beginning of a change of strategy where we focus on Obama and Romney specifically. Both have no intention of legalizing Cannabis and both are in the pockets of Goldman Sachs, Monsanto and Big Pharma. But to do this we have to get beyond a whole lot of anachronistic nonsense. Cannabis is one of natures safest herbs and causes virtually no deaths. Cannabis is an herb that every adult should have the inalienable right to grow. People that grow from their homes probably constitute millions of jobs in a dying economy. I could go on . . .
     
    The bottom line is that what is required now is a change of focus: from city/state matters to a stealth federal focus. Wherever Obama or Romney go we need to encourage American citizens to be there to protest and demand our inalienable right to grow Cannabis, herbs, foods. At the same time I would recommend an end to GMO foods, BPA, Chemtrails, High fructose corn syrup.
     
    We need to tear the masks off these Globalist Corporate Whores in a way that cannot be ignored by the Corporate Mainstream Media at the National Level: CNN, CNBC, FOX, MSNBC
     
    It would also be useful to expose the fact that mainstream media is "owned" by 6 Multinational Corporations that represent the Military Industrial Complex, the Prison Industrial Complex, Big Pharma and the Central Banks. The fact is what happened at Harborside is just the beginning of a much larger agenda that will become apparent immediately after the election as we fall off the "debt cliff" and the Globalists attempt to steal what little we have left.
     
    We are in fact entering a period of civil war that will be apparent before summer 2013.
     
    Bruce W. Cain

     

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 07:15PM -0700  

    as far as parking in SF? Wow.. my best advice would actually be to
    park in the city hall parking lot .which is kind of underneath the
    building itself. I looking forward to meeting folks in person! How
    exciting ! Anyone traveling is welcome to come by and kick back at our
    community center afterwards its only about three blocks from city
    hall.mi casa su casa!
     
     
    —
    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    s..[email protected] Jul 13 03:15AM  

    For the first time in decades, and I mean that literally, I have the sense that this whole insane War on Marijuana Consumers is going to end in the next 5 years.
     
    And when that time comes — when all of us can grow tax free from our homes and gardens — it would be nice if we don't completely destroy friendships that have been "cultivated" over these last few decades.
     
    I'm not going to point any fingers, and I'm not a saint myself, but would it be too much to keep our arguments focused on substance and not each other.
     
    Now onto the summersaults . . .
     
    For the first year in many I was not allowed to speak at the Hash Bash largely because my "no tax, no regulate" position was against the grain of the "tax and regulate" DeAngelo who was brought in as the "featured speaker." So I sat it out and did the following video that was probably watched by nearly 900 people . . . roughly 1 fifth of those that actually attended the Hash Bash this year. Her are my comments:
     

     
    So it appears "instant karma" has finally bit DeAngelo in the butt as Obama is now out to close Harborside. Boo Hoo . . .
     
    I think the expression goes that "when you've tried everything else the last resort is to do the right thing." And in that frame of mind perhaps it is time for DeAngelo, Chris Conrad and a host of other "tax and regulate" folk to finally join us in demanding that Obama simply let ALL ADULTS grow it. No taxes, regulations or government control. Because the way it lookas to me you're about to loose it all, which might be a good time to stop playing Obama's game which basically amounts to shooting fish (that would be dispensaries and large growers) in a barrel.
     
    At least by taking my lead you will at least be able to grow what you like at home. That should be some solace.
     
    And if you DO watch the video note that Marc Emery and I have been at odds since about 2000. But I still see him as a political prisoner and I will continue to demand that he be sent home to Jodie. See we can disagree but still be civil to one another. Right?
     
    Bruce W. Cain

     

 

    Clif Deuvall <s..[email protected]> Jul 12 11:43PM -0500  

    Thank you for saying, what I've tried to explain, even in Texas, a "put them away " state. To tax those which are ill is discrimination under the 64-65 Civil Rights Acts.
     

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 12:58AM -0700  

    I am hoping that this response is being directed to only those who
    choose to partake in? Letitia may I suggest that the core of the issue
    could be that some organizations attempt to marginalize the myriad of
    patient voices and opions? And that no one organization could ever
    fairly represent all patients . Even in comparision to the growth of
    worker unions? Variety of unions represent different workers with
    unique barriers in fighting for their rights. I agree that we need to
    collectively define patient advocate in contrast to a industry
    lobbyist . Which in the future will help both aspects ?
     
     
    —
    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    s..[email protected] Jul 13 02:27AM -0400  

    Terry,
    One other recommendation that I can share that I have found valuable in
    forum activities is not jumping to conclusions. That has happened here so let
    me clear one thing up so we can continue with future quality exchanges. I
    am not Dave Hodges. I have much respect for him as I do for you and
    everyone else posting here, but I do not speak for him, he does not speak for me,
    and I will gladly communicate directly with you or anyone else in a
    positive and respectful manner on any subject. In regard to your statement that
    the "censorship program on Save Cannabis is obvious", I believe it is more
    accurate from what I read to say the "moderation program on Save Cannabis is
    obvious" since I can clearly see them recently posting from you and many
    other perspectives while what has been "moderated" as far as I can tell seems
    to be some the distractions we all want to avoid. There is proven value
    in moderated discussions when you are trying to stay focused. Terry, I
    know what I am capable of and what I have to offer and I chose to stay focused
    as best I can on positive people and ideas that create solutions, the
    actions taken to make them happen, and any discourse that truly contributes to
    the real advancement of our "collective" goals. I am excited about the
    opportunity for further development of ideas with you and every other willing
    contributor as we continue moving forward.
    With respect,
    John

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 06:25AM -0700  

    I would much rather pay taxes in a $50 legalized ounce than not pay taxes on a $300 medicalized ounce….That is basic math…..
     
     
     

     

 

 

    Letitia Pepper <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 10:53AM -0700  

          I know there are many points of view.  But ASA has money and attorneys.  So, it, of all entities, should not be AGREEING to taxation of medicine.  This is a very simple issue, and given that Don Duncan has stated that he is not a patient himself, it's sad but not surprising he's not as concerned about total costs to patients as are patients themselves.
     
    — On Fri, 7/13/12, Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur <s..[email protected]> wrote:
     
     
    I  am hoping that this response is being directed to only those who
    choose to partake in? Letitia may I suggest that the core of the issue
    could be that some organizations attempt to marginalize the myriad of
    patient voices and opions? And that no one organization could ever
    fairly represent all patients . Even in comparision to the growth of
    worker unions? Variety of unions represent different workers with
    unique barriers in fighting for their rights. I agree that we need to
    collectively define patient advocate in contrast to a industry
    lobbyist . Which in the future will help both aspects ?
     
     
    —
    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

 

    Starchild <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 06:53PM -0700  

    David,
     
    You may not be the most diplomatic person, but thank you for clearly laying out those three points. I think they are very well stated.
     
    Love & Liberty,
    ((( starchild )))
     
     
    On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:06 AM, David Malmo-Levine wrote:
     

     

 

    Andrew Merkel <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 08:11AM -0700  

    Here are some voter results for Butte Co. This might help you people make decisions or ask for help. Instead you fight over petty things. Some of you should take a serious chill pill. This is what hard work, effort, and mainly a group of organized citizens can do.
    I sincerely hope all of us can get on a path that leads us to some sort of regulation. You need to learn how to play by their rules, there are none. It's easy to talk bad about people on the Internet and on the phone, but face to face I don't don't think you would treat each other the way you do on this loop.
     
    Stay well, work hard, and ask questions,
     
     
    Andrew Merkel
     
    Sent from my iPad
     
    Sent from my iPad

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 07:52AM -0700  

    Ending this thing once and for all….
    Posted by Mickey Martin on July 13th, 2012
    We are close…I can feel it. The days of cannabis prohibition are numbered. It will not be any one person or group who will push this thing over the edge, but you can be sure that soon, very soon, we all will collectively end this thing once and for all…
    The writing is on the wall. Look around you. Even ultra conservative cats like New jersey GovernorChris Christie are out in front declaring the drug war a huge failure. Ultra Right-Wing Conservative televangelist Pat Robertson says marijuana should be treated like alcohol. Governors and mayors across America are questioning the validity of taking people to jail for weed. The entire Democratic Party of TEXAS has embraced a legalization platform. The media coverage of the crackdown is heavily favored in our direction. The revelation that President Obama was the leader of the Choom Gang has made it more difficult to deny that cannabis is indeed safe, enjoyable, and helpful….shit, it helped Obama get elected President.
    These scenarios, along with dozens of other mainstream channels of support for cannabis, lead me to believe that we are closer than ever to ending cannabis prohibition (and hopefully the entire drug war). The citizens have had it. They are tired of the bullshit. We can no longer continue to take our friends, neighbors, and otherwise good people to jail for weed. IT IS NOT WORKING!
    But finally, a MAJORITY of Americans are seeing that writing on the wall and joining in a loud chorus of calls for real reform. This shit is bigger than any one of us and we should work hard to support the zeitgeist we see taking over the cannabis conversation. We need to reach out to and commend those, like Chris Christie, who are beginning to see the drug war for what it is…our Nation’s biggest debacle EVER! I do not care who you are….if you are willing to stand up and declare the drug war an utter failure with your bully pulpit then I am here to support you on that. I will never agree with Chris Christie on 90% of his bullshit conservative platform. But if he is for ending the drug war, that is something I can get behind big boy on….
    So when, wehre and how does this thing end; and what can we do to help push it along? That is a very good question, and not one that I likely have the answer to. But I do strongly believe that we can continue to keep the subject front and center and force our society to continue to have an open and honest conversation about where it all went so wrong.
    The winning conversation is the one that points out the absurdity of taking people to jail for weed; the amount of time, energy, and treasure we waste on taking people to jail for weed; and the immoral and unjust practices that the war on cannabis has resulted in, often in the form of racist practices and targeting the poor. Rich kids do not go to jail for weed…poor kids do.
    People get this. They think it is stupid that we waste billions of dollars every year taking people to jail for weed with nothing to show for it. There is no less weed on our streets. There is no progress being made. Just a huge waste of resources, and millions of people unjustly being treated like criminals for a safe and enjoyable plant. The jig is up…
    Maybe even the crackdown is part of the larger legalization scheme. Maybe their strategy is to cripple any major cannabis provider (or all of them) in an effort to clear the way for the corporate takeover. It is completely possible that what we are seeing is the final battle we always knew was coming. Maybe this is the final fight in the war on cannabis, and maybe we are winning. What is for sure is that the more they continue to crack down on cannabis users, and allow their bad policy to fly in the face of rational thinking, the more they are exposed as crooks, liars, and generally bad people, The more we can make the point that the real crime is taking people to jail for weed, the more we see the walls of prohibition crumbling.
    We must stay resolute. We must stay focused. We cannot afford to waste any opportunity to get our message out and it is our duty to continue to shed light on the truth…taking people to jail for weed is a bad idea. If we continue to support the narrative we see happening in our community, and do the work to educate and inform our friends and neighbors, we will continue to see progress towards the ultimate goal of cannabis freedom; maybe even sooner than we think.
    I still believe we can end this thing at the end of Summer, if we play our cards right. Sometimes fate has its own schedule, and the overwhelming conversation I see being had in our society is that taking people to jail for weed is just stupid. Let’s amplify that message to every part of the earth, until we see the call for an end to this insane prohibition is realized. This is how we end this thing once and for all….we do the work, stay on message, and keep fighting every day to expose cannabis prohibition as a fraud, and eliminate it from our social landscape. We are close…..keep pushing the ball down the field. Victory WILL be ours….and sooner than we think.
    #SummerOfBuds
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    Author of Medical Marijuana 101
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
    http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
    http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
     
    ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

     

    Richard Muller <s..[email protected]> Jul 13 04:58AM -0700  

    Hi all,
     
    just a reminder for those going.
     
    Richard
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Thanks to all of you for your continued support.  I just got word from Jose’s Attorney that the entire court calendar for has been moved to Friday July 13th, 9:30am in front of Judge Donna Ryu.  This is an arraignment hearing at the Oakland Federal Courthouse, 1301 Clay Street, 3rd Floor in Courtroom 4.  Be sure to bring a valid ID, and leave all your medicine at home, a there is a federal security screening upon entering the building.
     
    We are also excited that Green Aid is putting on a fundraiser to benefit Jose Gutierrez (Activist Arrested outside of Coffeshop Blue Sky at the Oaksterdam Raid by federal authorities), Daisy Bram (who had her children taken from her for cultivation in Butte County), Eddy Lepp (Currently serving a federal sentence for cultivation in Lake County), and other Green Aid clients. Music, Comedy with Ngaio, Unusual refreshments at a private residence in Oakland, hosted by Jane Klien & Ed Rosenthal, on Saturday July 28 3:30-9PM
    Wonders of Cannabis Summer Party
    $20 in Advance, $25 at the door
    www.green-aid.com or www.wondersofcannabis.com
     
    Regards and thanks,
     
     
    Sarah Shrader
    Coordinator of Sonoma ASA Chapter
    (phone#-removed)
    s..[email protected]
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

    Dennis Nebeker <s..[email protected]> Jul 12 06:41PM -0700  

    Great questions….but although these activities may be protected by CA law the continued crackdown by the DEA is making these ruling useless. The property owner of our collective got THE DEA letter telling him to get us out or loose his building last year. Two months later he gets another letter saying he has not complied and he better do it ASAP. This meant that we were being watched and he had no choice. We were in 100% compliance in all ways including distance from schools. This ruling is the greatest thing to happen for Prop 215 and gives us strength and belief that we will win one day be triumpth, how will it help collectives today?
     
    Sent from my iPhone
    Dennis