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- "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:50PM -0700
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- Angela Bacca <s..[email protected]> Aug 16 09:25AM -0700
Know anything about spy drones? Perhaps you are in the cultivation
industry? I am writing a piece for SKUNK Magazine and will be in the area
tomorrow through the weekend. I would love to interview you or anyone you
know. Please email me!
- "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 16 01:22AM -0700
- Steve Kubby <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 11:09PM -0700
SEE VP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE JIM GRAY SPEAK
AT SEATTLE HEMPFEST ON SATURDAY, MAIN STAGE, 3:50 PM
Vice Presidential Candidate Jim Gray
discusses the war on drugs and Ron Paul
With the Presidential election less than three months away, and with presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney prematurely selecting Paul Ryan as his running mate, the national media has provided a strong implication that voters are reduced to two less than ideal candidates. Some have even gone so far as to suggest that Paul Ryan is somehow a Libertarian candidate and his selection is an olive branch to Ron Paul supporters. Anyone who knows Congressman Ryan’s record, that he supports big war, that he voted for NDAA, TARP, and that his so called fiscally conservative budget proposal would only balance the budget in 30 years and requires raising the debt ceiling, knows that he believes in limited government libertarian principles as much as Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden.
If Birmingham (or national) libertarians were to only pay attention to the national media the feeling would be dismal, that we have a choice between two sides of one big government party, thankfully that is not the case. There is a true Libertarian running for the Presidency, his name is Gary Johnson. He has already secured the Libertarian Party’s nomination, and unlike Governor Romney, followed proper protocol in selecting a running mate. Judge Jim Gray should alleviate any of the fears Ron Paul supporters have about Gary Johnson. Recently I had a chance to sit down and discuss some of the issues with Judge Gray, and the first topic that came up was the war on drugs and Dr. Paul:
Q. Are you in favor of the ‘regulate marijuana like wine’ initiative?
A. Heavens yes, I’ve been called the chief proponent.
Q. What about those who say government doesn’t need more revenue?
A. Honestly, that’s one of the biggest problems I have trouble answering, because I think the government does have more money than it needs, but today the biggest oxymoron of our lives, without exception, the biggest oxymoron is the term ‘controlled substances,’ because as soon as we prohibit something we give up all of our control what so ever, in regards to price, quality, quantity, licensing, age restrictions, all of these we give up, to what? We give them up to Juvenile gangs, drug cartels, and a lot of other thugs. I can’t tell you I know about Alabama, but in California, Marijuana is the largest cash crop in our state, number two is grapes, and this money is going to fuel lots and lots of bad results. So, let’s regulate it, control it, and tax it and then reduce taxes in other areas because I fully agree, and certainly as a libertarian, the government has enough money, they are just misspending it, but that is a different issue. What we do not want to do, and cigarettes is another good example, cigarettes are a big killer, they kill something like ‘half a million’ Americans each year because they themselves smoke, so if the government worried about our health, they should make cigarettes illegal, but that would just bring Al Capone and Mexican drug cartels into the cigarette distribution business, so that’s not a good idea, so let’s reduce taxes in other areas, but treat Marijuana like wine, and by the way, treat hemp, which is a viable industrial product, treat that like cotton, just raise it just like we do cotton.
Q. Does it stop at marijuana? Should heroin be legal?
A. You know, let’s start with marijuana, I have my own opinions, and directly answering your question, Switzerland has had heroin under the control of medical doctors for about the last 15 years, where they can prescribe it to heroin addicted people. The results are that no onehas died from an overdose, nobody has encountered aids, and they’re pretty much normal lives. They are 50% higher employment, they are paying their taxes, they are off the dole, they are supporting their families, so I would certainly be in favor of doing that, and there are other issues as well, but honestly let’s just start with marijuana, we’ll all learn from the experience, and then we’ll see where to go next.
Q. Does ending the war on drugs or regulating marijuana mean drugs will be legal in all 50 states?
A. The Federal Government was really sneaky in 1913 and again in 1933. In 1913 the Harrison Narcotics act was a tax measure, same thing with the marijuana tax act of 1933, they did not prohibit it, they just attached ridiculously high taxes on the transaction, it was only Richard Nixon that actually made it prohibited. What we should do is, when we finally repealed alcohol prohibition and we came to our senses, we did not say that Alabama, Nebraska, or Utah will provide alcohol, all we did was say the federal government is no longer involved in this. Each state can decide best how to treat the issue and the federal government’s role is reduced to assisting each state in enforcing its chosen law. That’s where we should go with regards to these other drugs also. It’s called the concept of federalism actually. Our country was based on that concept.
Q. Shifting gears a little, what do you say to the Ron Paul supporters who say Ron Paul or none at all?
A. The first thing to say is Ron Paul has already won the election. He has mainlined, mainstreamed the whole libertarian philosophy. He will go down in history, rightfully, as having changed the discussion, changed the emphasis, but having said that, he is not going to get the Republican nomination. So, by the middle of August or after the Republican convention, I applaud the Ron Paul supporters, but I’m going to welcome them to our family, they are actually already in it, many of them probably know it, I know full well they will never support Obama, I know full well they will never support Romney, and if they really want to (continue) making a difference, look at what Governor Johnson not only says but has done in New Mexico as Governor, and by the way you can look at my record as a trial court judge for 25 years, we actually stand for pretty much everything Dr. Paul stands for, and so we are welcoming them to our family, we appreciate their support, and I think that once they see what their options are they will, and should, flock to the support of Governor Gary Johnson, and by the way, I’m sure they are all aware that Ron Paul’s son Rand Paul has endorsed Romney, which I found as a shock. I never saw that one coming and I’m just amazed that has happened.
Q. Did Rand sell out the movement?
A. I’m not able to comment on that, we are living in a real world, I’m not an intimate adviser or confidant of Rand Paul, I admire him, I admire more his father. It just surprised me, in fact it shocked me. I was disappointed. Why? I think you have to ask him.
- "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:44PM -0700
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- Dennis Hinze <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:08PM -0700
Save Cannabis ~ Happy to see you are still with us, Mickey. You have a refreshing and pragmatic view of the marijuana legalization situation. It is becoming increasingly easy to see that many people in the pot market have an axe to grind…their personal interest. Like any lobbyists, trying to get laws passed that favor their activities. Like any big business, trying to undercut the little guy. Keep up the good work. We may draft a successful initiative for 2014 or 2016, if Nature is kind enough to keep us from roasting before then. ~ All the best to you and your's. ~ Dennis Hinze
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