Monthly Archives: November 2012

Harborside’s Landlords…

From: “Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur” – November 30, 2012

I Agree with dave hodges, if we remain silent and allow snitch like , mefirst, and me only, positioning to have others pushed off the map,as an accepted method of engagement we have Already lost, that method of info xchange and monopoly building is a cookie cutter to support snydicated or goverment mafia like reality and has nothing , nothing to do with cannabis freedom. On Thursday, November 29, 2012, Dave Hodges wrote: > Bud, > Read this: > That article was written at the request of Steve Deangelo and James Anthony and officially promoted by Harborside by their social media people. Personally I am far from “sitting on the sidelines”. > What bothers me is how one group of people (the Harborside/ASA crew) likes to exclude people, snitch on other clubs and uses a public image of “doing the right thing” & “for the patients” to hide behind. All you need to do is talk to some of their employees (the real ones, not management) to hear what’s really going on at Harborside. > The problem with what Harborside is doing in court is what happens if/when they loose. If someone who “doesn’t pay taxes” took a case to court and lost, the way Harborside operates would be legal (it is not currently). If someone who operates like Harborside goes to court and looses, the 95% of the “industry” who operates like them will have to close. When you consider their language, IRS filings, and legal stance, it sounds like a pretty large gamble to me… Regardless of Harborsides outcome, a collective (a non-statutory entity) who does not sell cannabis or engage in any trade or business as defined by the BOE and IRS will exist until a court rules otherwise. > Now is the time for us all to be honest with ourselves and work toward fixing the laws that prevent us from using the cannabis and hemp plants. > Best Regards, > Dave Hodges > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Bud wrote: >> The sell/sale conundrum isn’t what this is about, not entirely. Harborside >> is now a target not only to the feds but to some within the MMJ community, >> which saddens and angers me greatly. Nobody has invented the perfect >> business model, which falls somewhere between communal farming and R.J. >> Reynolds-size manufacturing. But Harborside, along with many others, have >> forged ahead despite such uncertainties to carve out the beginnings of a >> responsible and regulated cannabis marketplace. >> >> Anyone sitting on the sidelines waiting to say “I told you so” should think >> very hard about what Harborside’s closure means for any and all dispensing >> collectives in California. Mom-and-pops may prosper by dodging the feds >> and/or failing to pay taxes or salaries, and some of them may even think >> themselves quite clever for doing so, but when push comes to shove they fade >> away back into the shadows. >> >> Now is not the time to start blaming the victims, unless you accept the >> adage that misery loves company. Harborside is taking the fight to the feds >> in both the political and legal arenas; who’s got a problem with that? >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Dave Hodges wrote: >>> >>> IMHO: This is why no collective or cooperative should use the language >>> “sell/sale” (especially if you’re going on international TV) . >>> >>> >>> Pot Clinic Can’t Catch a Break With Landlords >>> >>> By CHRIS MARSHALL >>> >>> SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – A medical marijuana dispensary has renewed pleas >>> to stop its landlord from upending the business amid federal forfeiture >>> proceedings. >>> >>> Harborside Health Center defended its Oakland location last week with >>> a brief that is nearly identical to one it filed earlier over its San Jose >>> location. >>> The U.S. Attorney’s O

— Shona Gochenaur Executive Director Axis of Love SF

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LA Planning Commission Meeting Details

From: “Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur” – November 30, 2012

Yes Im sure Theyre clients would LOVE to ban others and have over ten times the business, industry ridden is putting it lightly. Restrictive permiting is not freindly to patients nor growers, from what i heard via grape vine a series of lawsuits will follow if indeed the Council has been purchased, and aprrove this, whats the solution fair public hearings and regulation. The lawsuits by the seven hundred other Providers will hopefuly shed light on the coruption. On Friday, November 30, 2012, Patient Advocacy Network <> wrote: > Greetings Colleagues – > > Yesterday the LA City Planning Commission heard the ordinance for the > limited immunity ban on patient collectives during its regular meeting. > > Here is the link to the ban: > > > The list of prohibitions starts on page 16. > > Here is a brief summary of yesterday’s hearing: > > City attorney Jane Usher introduced the ordinance and explained to the > commission that while the ordinance amended the City’s Public Safety Code, > the courts have ruled the ordinance is part planning law and is therefore, > under the purview of this commission as well. Usher went on to state that > this was an awkward time to introduce an ordinance as the City Attorney is > awaiting decisions from higher courts but was moving forward per the > insistence of the City Council. She acknowledged receiving letters of > support for the ban from GLACA and the UFCW. > During public comment Sarah Armstrong representing GLACA stated they > “loved” the proposed ordinance and had made some recommendations to the > City Attorney in their letter including approving the CEQA exemption. > Representatives for UFCW stated they support the ban and listed some > suggested amendments. > A representative from Attorney David Welch’s office suggested it was too > soon to vote on an ordinance due to the initiatives. > Christopher Koontz from Councilmember Paul Koretz office stated their goal > was to approve an ordinance that would allow for a very small number of > dispensaries. He also stated that the initiatives were “industry ridden,” > had not yet qualified for the ballot and may not be approved by the > voters. > > The City Attorney’s office concurred and also questioned the legality of > the language of both initiatives. If qualified, the initiatives would be > on the May ballot. > > The 1000 ft. rule and residential use v. residential zoning was discussed. > > Ultimately, the Commission approved the draft ban without any suggested > amendments and moved the matter over to the LA City Council. > > The question is how soon will the Council put this on their agenda. I > will keep you informed. Organize your patient-members now to speak out at > City Hall. Provide this draft ordinance to your attorneys now so they can > review and prepare potential motions. Minus a few technical issues, I > anticipate the LA City Council will adopt this ordinance as is. > > Please let me know if you have any questions. Many thanks. > > > > Sincerely, > > Degé Coutee > Executive & Program Director > Patient Advocacy Network > > @PAN4Compassion > > (323) 334-5282 > > PAN is a charitable 501(c)(3) organization > >

— Shona Gochenaur Executive Director Axis of Love SF

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From: Lynne Wilson – November 30, 2012

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“I support legalization plain & simple. Black market growers and dealers will have to find new jobs.”

From: Rick Steeb – November 30, 2012

The only thing “supporting” home-growing is the black market prices.  When Cannabis is mass produced like tobacco, there won’t be sufficient profit available to pay for grow lights.

I can hardly wait.

People who prefer the status quo over “tax & regulate” are deluded if not treasonous.  IMHO. 

Here is NORML’s Steve Bloom responding along with my reply to hiim. Please pass this on . . .

Steve Bloom: “I support legalization plain & simple. Black market growers and dealers will have to find new jobs.”

Steve Bloom has been around a long time and I believe has been involved with both NORML and High Times. How dare he simply throw all the home growers under the bus with such arrogance. I want to debate Steve Bloom and others that insist on a “tax and regulate” solution. This is simply another form of Cannabis Prohibition which will, as he agrees, put all of the million plus “home growers” that have been supplying over 30 million consumers for decades now.

We need to build a movement to push back and insist on the preservation of “home growing” through MERP2 which is described in the following discussion. See link below:

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“I support legalization plain & simple. Black market growers and dealers will have to find new jobs.”

From: David Malmo-Levine – November 30, 2012

There are two ways of reading this statement.

“Those who currently grow cannabis in the black market can no longer grow cannabis.”


“Those who currently grow cannabis can no longer grow it in the black market.”

I certainly hope he was talking about the second version. I suspect that to be true – how anyone could hold the view expressed in the first version is beyond me.

I prefer this wording instead – it’s much more clear:

“The object is to spread the wealth as much as possible. We don’t want the oil, tobacco, and liquor companies, or the pharmaceutical industry gaining control of this market. It’s extremely important that it be kept in the hands of the people who have put it together over these last twenty years.” [23]

– Gatewood Galbraith

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, normelle wrote:

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