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Harborside’s Landlords…

From: Bud – December 2, 2012

Defining the black market has become problematic for both police and cannabis consumers and advocates. If you’re saying some patient-growers would play by the rules if they could, but choose not to for fear of the type of persecution being heaped upon the businesses they supply, that’s a fair enough statement.

But it’s equally fair to observe that some patient-growers have no intention of ever paying taxes or taking the baby steps toward transparency that dispensaries have taken. The black market is their bread and butter, and while I don’t wish them ill, neither do I support the continuation of anything-goes cannabis for sale. If you listen closely, that’s exactly what some advocates are pushing for.

If you’re lucky enough to be able to cultivate your own cannabis, you don’t need the dispensaries OR the black market. You reduce market demand by growing your own. That’s a fundamental concept in Prop. 215 and SB 420 that is being rapidly eroded by outdoor growing bans, and those bans are being promoted as a tool to stop certain patient-growers from selling their 99-plant megagardens for profit (not to mention nuisance odors, public safety, citizen complaints, etc.)

There is a distinction that must be made when you grow lawfully as part of a closed-loop collective, or as a black-market vendor who grows on spec and then slings nugs to the highest bidder come harvest time. This latter black market is not worthy of preservation, but it seems it is becoming institutionalized as some distorted version of the family farm. Well, guess what, farmers pay taxes and help lower prices through regulated production and distribution systems. That’s the system we’re striving for, an equal playing field for cannabis providers, not full employment in perpetuity for anyone with a grow lamp. Such a system serves no one.

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Starchild wrote:

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Harborside’s Landlords…

From: Bud – November 28, 2012

The sell/sale conundrum isn’t what this is about, not entirely. Harborside is now a target not only to the feds but to some within the MMJ community, which saddens and angers me greatly. Nobody has invented the perfect business model, which falls somewhere between communal farming and R.J. Reynolds-size manufacturing. But Harborside, along with many others, have forged ahead despite such uncertainties to carve out the beginnings of a responsible and regulated cannabis marketplace.

Anyone sitting on the sidelines waiting to say “I told you so” should think very hard about what Harborside’s closure means for any and all dispensing collectives in California. Mom-and-pops may prosper by dodging the feds and/or failing to pay taxes or salaries, and some of them may even think themselves quite clever for doing so, but when push comes to shove they fade away back into the shadows.

Now is not the time to start blaming the victims, unless you accept the adage that misery loves company. Harborside is taking the fight to the feds in both the political and legal arenas; who’s got a problem with that?

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Dave Hodges wrote:

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October 12, 2012 – Digest for s..s@a2c2.us – 8 Messages in 4 Topics

    Weed Activist <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 11 04:44PM -0700  

    Excellent response.


    Bud <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 11 05:26PM -0700  

    I'm not crazy about the word "medicalization." It's a vague term that lends
    support to the equally vague idea that medical cannabis and adult-use
    cannabis cannot (or should not) co-exist, or that advances on one front
    must always come at the expense of those fighting on the other.
    If we truly believe that cannabis has medical value, then rescheduling is a
    worthy and inevitable goal. Not the end goal, necessarily, especially for
    the adult-use crowd. But a major milestone on the road to cannabis reform,
    however one wants to slice and dice it.
    Rescheduling allows more doctors to apply the rigors of medical science to
    cannabis. Argue all you want about Big Pharma and evil corporations, but
    don't say Marinol and Sativex are bad just because corporations make money
    instead of some Humboldt sharecropper. When doctors are finally allowed to
    take the lead, the focus turns to best medical practices, rigorous
    scientific research, clinical trials and positive patient outcomes. For
    patients who can't obtain or tolerate whole-plant medicine, more R&D into
    cannabinoid-based pharmaceuticals is a good thing. Better science is a good
    thing. A broader range of meds, both prescription and someday
    over-the-counter, is a most excellent thing, and we should look forward to
    those days when cannabis returns to its rightful place in the medicine
    It's really just this simple: We asked for medical cannabis, and someday
    we're going to get it in all its 21st Century glory, not some 19th Century
    rehash. In the process, we're not going to be able to tell doctors and the
    FDA that smoking is good medicine, or that they can skip the chapters on
    refining drugs to avoid undesirable side effects just because we like a
    good THC buzz. This is another Big Pharma fallacy, that prescription meds
    are inferior because — SHOCKING — they have potential side effects. The
    use of any medication is a balancing act between the desired health benefit
    and the undesired side effects. Cannabis doesn't get a free pass on this
    just because we say so. Future cannabis meds will be leaner, cleaner, and
    better targeted at specific human ailments. Rescheduling can only help
    accelerate that process.
    Pharmaphobes and fans of whole-plant medicine have nothing to fear from
    rescheduling. They have much, much more to fear from local governments and
    police/DA types that never met a dispensary or grow site that they liked.
    I'm totally fine with letting the doctors take the lead on the future of
    medical cannabis, so long as we get to put in our two cents' worth. I'm
    much more worried about what's going on right now with the federal
    dispensary crackdown and a new wave of local ordinances pointed straight at
    home growers. (And thank you so much, 99-plant wonders, for inviting that
    particular backlash against patients.)
    Stop worrying about some theoretical power grab by Big Pharma and stay
    focused on the blitzkrieg in progress. Watch your City Councils and Boards
    of Supervisors like hawks, and protect your access to whole-plant medicine
    while the doctors and everyone else play catch-up.




    Angela Bacca <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 12 09:56AM -0700  

    That is incredible, we are about $400 away from Eddy getting a visitor in
    early November now. I will tell him, thank you!

    Angela Bacca, MBA
    Media Coordinator
    Green Aid: The Medical Marijuana Legal Defense and Education Fund


    "s..s@a2c2.us" <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 12 06:23PM -0700  

    Ive got $100 for next week as well.
    Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 12 01:46PM -0700  

    So when I hear rumors, I ask questions. Weve heard that Erich no longer
    operates SPARC? Why does this concern us, were in the same building, and
    were here first, and weve noticed a change and had neighbor witness a
    scenrio with police and paddy wagons, at SPARC vendor side etrance ,
    Michelle was attacked or something occured to the point of her stating
    SPARC should be closed. Ive asked as a neighbor , whats going on, and any
    other city permitee, would responde asap, with something.I ve been btwn two
    mdcs, and enjoy a very respectful neighbor relations with Heidi and dale,
    never any issues,and any concern addressed promptly and profesional, I
    assumed it was just Erich arrogance and uncaring nature that their was no
    Reply to whats going on but word on the street is Erich turned it over and
    ofcourse becuase its a unverified rumor, turned over to goverment.
    Regardless the health dept needs to remind Erich , whose name is probably
    on permit, that by law you are to have a comunity laison to answer
    neighborhood concerns, my concerns have not to date been answered.


    Weed Activist <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 12 08:57AM -0700  

    Oakland Sues Feds. What happens
    October 12, 2012 *in Crackdown <http://weedactivist.com/category/crackdown/>
    , Medical Cannabis <http://weedactivist.com/category/medical-cannabis/>*
    In a move to stop the Feds from shutting down Harborside Health Center, the
    City of Oakland filed a lawsuit against the Feds in an effort to get them
    to “restrain and declare unlawful” a forfeiture case put forth by the Feds
    against Harborside’s landlord.
    Here is an excerpt from the New York Times piece that ran
    “This lawsuit is about protecting the rights of legitimate medical
    patients,” City Attorney Barbara Parker said in a statement on Wednesday,
    when the suit was filed. “I am deeply dismayed that the federal government
    would seek to deny these rights and deprive thousands of seriously ill
    Californians of access to safe, affordable and effective medicine.”
    The civil lawsuit, which the City Council approved, seeks to “restrain and
    declare unlawful” the forfeiture proceedings against the landlords of the
    dispensary, Harborside Health Center, stating that Oakland will “suffer
    irreparable harm if the dispensaries are shuttered.”
    “It is heartening to see the city stand up and support us,” said Steve
    DeAngelo, Harborside’s executive director. At its Oakland location, the
    nonprofit dispensary employs 100 people and serves some 112,000 more,
    seeing 600 to 800 customers a day. Last year, the group paid $3.5 million
    in taxes, including $1.1 million to the city.
    It is heartening to see the City stand up for the rights of the medical
    cannabis community. It is not clear where they believe their legal standing
    will overcome the usual “If a City makes embezzlement legal that does not
    mean the Feds cannot enforce embezzlement laws” argument that is normally
    put forth, but it will be interesting to see how this one plays out.
    One of the issues that may arise though is that the Feds decide to use
    their power in retaliation to the lawsuit. Recall, in Montana, on the same
    day the Senate Committee was to vote on repealing the state’s medical
    marijuana regulations the Feds raided a dozen facilities there in a show of
    force; so it is not unheard of for these folks to conveniently use their
    rights to enforce Federal law in an effort to make a statement.
    Where does this agressive action by the City leave the other
    three dispensaries that operate in the City, as well as the four other
    applicants who are in the process of trying to open facilities there? Could
    this lawsuit pose risk to the existing folks and hamper the efforts of the
    folks coming on?
    Here is a quote from City Attorney Barbara J. Parker from an LA Times
    If federal prosecutors succeed in shuttering Harborside, she said, “public
    safety could be worsened because those patients would be out in the black
    market purchasing this medicine from criminals.”
    Now that is not an entirely true statement. As mentioned, there are other
    access points in the City; but she is right in asserting that a very large
    and professional organization that serves tens of thousands of patients a
    month would be lost, and those patients would be displaced. That would be
    terrible for the community. But what if this action resulted in a more
    sweeping action to flex their muscles to the City and all of the
    dispensaries in Oakland are shut down as a result? Then you will see
    patients even more so displaced.
    I am not sure what the answer is. I have long called for City’s to step up
    and defend their medical cannabis business and patient communities. My
    ideas were more resolution and political alliance based efforts, but a
    lawsuit is a much bolder and striking move. It is also more risky. Do not
    forget that El Camino Wellness in Sacramento, who sued the Feds was raided,
    and Marin Alliance who sued the Feds in the Northern District also remains
    closed, so the Feds do have a history of vindictive enforcement practices.
    Since this is an action taken by an entire City, could the City
    of Oakland then become the target of enforcement? It is possible.
    But it is also possible that they make a great case and blow the doors off
    of this thing. I know Oakland’s legal department has had their fair share
    of issues, including Occupy protest issues and with their plans to license
    four industrial size cultivation facilities; but if their case holds water
    it could be the first step in backing the Feds up. It seems like a longshot
    on the surface, but I would hope that they have a better legal argument
    than those who have come and failed before them.
    The reality is that cannabis prohibition is evil, so regardless of what
    happens I am still proud of Oakland for stepping up and putting their name
    on the line. I was reminded that this is somewhat similar to the WAMM
    lawsuit where the City and/or County joined on as co-plaintiffs. While that
    lawsuit ended in a sort of stalemate, there were no agressive actions
    brought against the City or County. I hope that bodes well for Oakland.
    that was a different time, with different folks, and a much less focused
    media blitz.
    I am pulling for Oakland and Harborside. I am praying Uncle Sam keeps his
    wits about him and does not decide to do something stupid to show us all
    who is the boss. I hate it when they do that.


October 2, 2012 – Digest for s..s@a2c2.us – 10 Messages in 5 Topics

    LANNYSWERDLOW <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 02 05:17PM -0700  

    Seventeen states and the District of Columbia representing over a third of the U.S. population have legalized the use of marijuana when recommended by a physician. Six states have marijuana initiatives on their November ballots (three legalization and three medical marijuana). $20 billion is spent each year ensnaring over 850,000 Americans in the criminal justice system. Thousands of deaths occur on the Mexican border each year deciding who can smuggle marijuana into the United States.
    What other issue impacts so many Americans at such a staggering cost in dollars and lives and is so completely sidelined. Yet the only thing President Obama and challenger Romney seem to agree on is to NOT talk about marijuana.
    That's why I created a petition to Frank J. Fahrenkopf, Jr., Co-Chairman of the Commission of Presidential Debates, the Moderators of the debates, The United States House of Representatives, and a number of other political and media luminaries to see if we can convince them to get a marijuana question in the debate.
    Will you sign this petition?
    Please forward this to all your friends on Facebook, get it out on Twitter and whatever way you can to get other people to sign this petition. We want to get 25,000 signers on this petition and to do that we need your help. Wouldn’t you like to see the issue of marijuana put front and center where it belongs instead of being treated like something good and decent folk don’t discuss.






    "martinvictor" <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 02 12:33PM -0700  

    Any buddy know how to treat for the chocolate ? he has up chucked once.




    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 02 03:28PM -0700  

    Wow good news!
    On Oct 2, 2012 3:02 PM, "Patient Advocacy Network" <


    Dave Hodges <s..s@a2c2.us> Oct 02 11:20AM -0700  

    Please join us at the 2012 SaveCannabis.org Education and Planning
    Conference in San Jose on October 19th. Topics include current local
    and state taxation regulatory activities, the official legal
    definition of a “collective” as interpreted by the Board of
    Equalization, updates regarding Medical Cannabis Bans statewide from
    the Riverside Supreme Court Case, and planning for a workable
    Initiative for 2014.
    Your attendance is encouraged in order to obtain information that
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    Please review the attached invite & agenda.
    Best Regards,
    Dave Hodges


September 28, 2012 – Digest for s..s@a2c2.us – 10 Messages in 5 Topics

    Marla James <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 28 06:18AM -0700  

    My ADA case which looks like it will be going to the Supreme Court in about
    a year or so covers this issue. The Congress did legalize medical marijuana
    in DC and California had to decriminalize it.
    Also all the cities, including Los Angeles, did not follow the chain of
    command when it came to calling in the DEA. We will be filing suit against
    Anaheim either today or Monday on this. Municipalities are suppose to
    contact the State Attorney prior to calling in the DEA, and the state and
    only the state should contact the Feds.
    On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, LANNYSWERDLOW <s..s@a2c2.us


    Bud <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 28 11:51AM -0700  

    This doesn't answer your question, but it's an authoritative approach to
    framing the legal issues:
    On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM, LANNYSWERDLOW <s..s@a2c2.us




    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 28 07:48PM -0700  

    I think pappas law group tried to adress this?
    On Sep 27, 2012 8:30 PM, "LANNYSWERDLOW" <s..s@a2c2.us>


    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 28 07:36PM -0700  

    So a few advocates Called to see if it was our CENTER that paddy wagons and
    cops ect were arresting folks, no, we were all.back home and relaxing
    exhausted, from our event. Then we heard SPARC had been broken into?? Our
    neighbor told us that they arrested guys that looked like football players,
    as many as ten police cars,.each.report gets crazier, last one was the
    robbers tripped their silent alarms. All I can say is were all fine, we
    live pretty simple , next door /Sparc is a well gaurded fortress, they
    might have been able to be clever enough to get in,almost certian they
    wouldnt be able to get out,with any of Erich money, and I hope none of his
    secret service guards were harmed by the bandits, they all.seem nice. But
    truly I have no idea whats occured or anything. Funny one was someone said
    didnt you catch it on your cameras, come on people, the cameras arent ours.
    We dont have anything to steal.


    Weed Activist <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 27 11:13PM -0700  

    Why I am a weed activist…<http://weedactivist.com/why-i-am-a-weed-activist/>
    September 28, 2012 *in I Like
    , Mass Incarceration <http://weedactivist.com/category/mass-incarceration/>
    , Weed Activism <http://weedactivist.com/category/weed-activism/>,
    Weed Love<http://weedactivist.com/category/weed-love/>
    It is not like I woke up one day and decided I wanted to spend the rest of
    my life fighting for cannabis freedom (I hope not). My involvement with
    cannabis goes back decades. it was love at first puff. I remember the
    overwhelming sensation and the way it put my busy mind at ease. It was like
    I was finally home.
    I was a ripe age of twelve standing by the creek behind my house with my
    best friend. We scored some weed from an older kid, and rolled our first
    poorly crafted joint, with two papers for good measure. I remember
    instantly the change of hemisphere for me. I was a Ritalin baby, so for me,
    cannabis helped me to slow down and appreciate life a little more. But I
    knew at that instance that weed was a good thing for me, and that I would
    seek it out for the rest of my life.
    I also was a terrible drinker. I spent many years trying to find a way to
    make the devil’s kool-aid work for me, but alas, it was not meant to be.
    After innumerable issues and arrests for drinking too much, or doing
    some dumb stuff while I was drinking too much, I decided that booze just
    was not for me.
    Weed has never created those types of issues for me. Weed has always been a
    positive in my life and has helped me to become a better person. It has
    allowed me to explore parts of my imagination and existence that I would
    likely have not even noticed. Weed can help me find my center, or it can
    help me to find a separation between myself and the hectic world.
    The reality is that I did not choose to be a weed activist….weed chose me
    to be an activist for justice and morality.
    You see, I love weed. I love it as an enjoyable resource. i love it as a
    medicine. I love it as a spiritual and meditative force. But more than all
    of that, I hate injustice and immorality. The fact that we continue to take
    people to jail in an act of mass incarceration in this country is
    deplorable. It sickens me. We have used one of the greatest plants that the
    good lord ever created as a whipping post for mostly poor and mostly
    minority people who are victims of our nation’s disastrous war on drugs.
    Maybe you have never been in a jail. I have. It is depressing. The fact is
    that there are A LOT of people there for weed and other drugs. We have
    created a lucrative black market and have created an unprecedented level of
    income inequality, and we wonder why poor people turn to selling drugs to
    get by. They then become easy prey for the industrial prison complex to
    suck into their system with draconian mandatory minimum sentences, often
    for decades…for crimes that have no real victims. We have created an
    environment that harvests crimes and takes advantage of our society’s most
    vulnerable people. We should all be ashamed that we allow this to go one
    right under our noses and do nothing about it.
    I am a weed activist because I have been a victim of overzealous
    enforcement of weed laws. I have had my car searched and my home raided
    because of my love for weed. It is ugly. It is unacceptable It has to stop.
    We are better than this. We can no longer allow militarized police forces
    to imprison our family, friends, neighbors and fellow man for weed. it is
    not working and it is insane policy. So until we can right this terrible
    injustice in our communities and find a path to a more moral and right
    solution, I am a weed activist and I will do whatever it takes to make it
    so not another person has to experience pain, suffering, loss of standing,
    or shame for their right to use a safe, enjoyable and helpful plant. It is
    our duty to our fellow man to work hard to ensure cannabis prohibition, and
    the failed war on drugs, ends sooner than later.



    Donna Lambert <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 27 10:18PM -0700  

    —– Forwarded Message —–
    Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:54 PM
    Authorities target illegal pot grows in southwest Santa Rosa sweep

    Federal and local law enforcement officers swept house to house Wednesday in search of illegal marijuana gardens in a southwest Santa Rosa neighborhood.BETH SCHLANKER/ PD
    Published: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 at 9:53 a.m.
    Last Modified: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 at 1:24 p.m.
    Dozens of combat-clad police officers, deputies and federal agents swarmed a southwest Santa Rosa neighborhood Wednesday morning in the region’s largest-ever operation against residential marijuana gardens.
    A team of 150 law enforcement officers raided 32 homes on Moorland Avenue, Eddy Drive, Barbara Drive and Neville Way, immediately south of the Corby Auto Mall.
    Following the initial raid, officers carrying search warrants went into yards and confiscated a large amount of marijuana plants. Residents, many of them handcuffed, sat in front yards and watched as the pot was piled in great heaps.
    The raids began about 9 a.m. when FBI agents in full military gear ordered residents to leave their homes, then rushed into the residences, most of them modest multi-plex units. The neighborhood was punctuated by the sounds of exploding flash grenades at several homes.
    The agents ushered adults and children outside, where many of the adults were handcuffed and watched over by officers with a variety of agencies. Participants included personnel from the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Office, Probation Department and District Attorney’s Office, Santa Rosa Police Department, California Highway Patrol and federal departments of Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
    Sheriff’s Lt. Dennis O’Leary said the operation was planned after authorities discovered that suspected pot cultivation in the neighborhood had become rampant.
    “We just looked into this neighborhood and, literally, probably every backyard but two or three have a (marijuana) grow,” O’Leary said. “Our goal is to go in there to rid the neighborhood of these, what we think are probably illegal grows.”
    The FBI assault team, its large military-type truck and a big-wheeled SWAT vehicle had left the neighborhood, but people still sat handcuffed in their front yards, as a woman who asked not to be identified surveyed the scene from the hood of a parked car.
    She said she was awakened by officers outside a neighbor’s unit screaming, “Open the door!” She arose and looked out to see “the street was full of FBI, SWAT, everything.”
    “They made me go back in the house,” she said. She added that she was not surprised that it was pot cultivation that drew the huge raiding party to her neighborhood.
    “The whole street smells like weed,” she said.
    Another resident, identifying herself only as Anna, said “It was going to happen sooner or later.”
    As pot piles grew in the street, groups of neighbors gathered to watch. Several called the officers’ tactics “overkill” and questioned the value of ripping out the gardens.
    “It’s a big bunch of crap,” said one neighbor Lora Wilson. “How much taxpayer money did we just waste doing this?”
    O’Leary, the sheriff’s lieutenant, said there is a heavy gang presence in the area and that was part of the reason for the strong police presence.
    “It’s absolutely not overkill, with the history in this neighborhood of violence and gang violence,” he said.
    The staging ground for the operation was the parking lot of the Santa Rosa’s Veterans Memorial Building. At about 9 a.m., a long line of FBI and sheriff’s SUVs, trucks, patrol cars and large assault vehicles snaked out of the parking lot and onto Highway 12, then southbound 101.
    At the Corby Avenue exit, a patrol car stopped cross traffic to allow the motorcade to stream through red signals.
    Onlookers said an FBI team dressed in fatigues and helmets and carrying an assortment of battering rams, shields, ladders and weapons first entered a residence on Moorland Avenue at Barbara Drive.
    That team then moved to several homes on Barbara Drive. Soon, handcuffed and guarded residents sat in front yards up and down Barbara Drive and the adjoining streets.
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    Dave Hodges <s..s@a2c2.us> Sep 28 04:58PM -0700  

    He has asked for help, but the response regarding enforcement actions
    was "[San Jose's] pretty much on our own".
    Here's the quote:
    >> Mayor Reed: I have talked to both the U.S. attorney Melinda Haag and District Attorney Jeff Rosen about their enforcement actions, and they do continue to bring enforcement actions, although they are not just doing it on nuisance basis, they usually have other factors, other things that are going on around them which they bring their enforcement actions. But I know that there is several underway. I talked to Jeff Rosen this morning, as a matter of fact, and some of those in which they are bringing the enforcement actions have closed down, but the enforcement action continues on. So we do have some prospects of getting help from other agencies but I think we're pretty much on our own.