I think you have my anti-GMO opinion confused with Letitia's.
 
Where I and Letitia disagree:
 
I do not believe that GMO canabis exists. Letitia does, but is unable to
offer anything other than conjecture as her "proof".
 
I believe you can get low-THC high CBD from normal non-GM breeding methods
– or from most industrial hemp as-is.
 
I do not feel that cannabis bred to be low-THC is "not medicine" or in any
way a threat or a conspiracy or ineffective medicinally.
 
I do not have a problem with what is going on in Israel.
 
I believe that RMLW would have effectively banned GM cannabis.
 
 
 
 
Where I and Letitia agree:
 
A ban on GM cannabis is a good thing.
 
There are projects ongoing to genetically modify all useful drug plants
 
http://consciouslifenews.com/genetically-modified-plants-grow-drugs/113036/
 
… including, eventually if not now, cannabis – for proprietary reasons.
 
I believe the evidence for cannabis being one of the drug plants that we
can expect GM from can be found here:
 
The first mention of the possibility of cannabis being genetically modified
I could find was cited in a document leaked to Cannabis
Culture<http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1322.html>back in
2000, which read in part: "Cannabis seeds from Monsanto are almost
definitely genetically engineered. Genetically engineered plants can be
patented, and it is in Monsanto's best interest to hold a patent on any
seed they sell. Seed patents ensure that companies like Monsanto can
continue to profit from seeds from year to year, as farmers are legally
bound to buy patented seeds from the patent holder rather than simply store
them from the last year's crop.”
http://www.celebstoner.com(phone#-removed)/blogs/misc/why-we-must-ban-gm-cannabis.html
 
 
MINNEAPOLIS / ST. PAUL (09/14/2009) —In a first step toward engineering a
drug-free Cannabis plant for hemp fiber and oil, University of Minnesota
researchers have identified genes producing tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the
psychoactive substance in marijuana. Studying the genes could also lead to
new and better drugs for pain, nausea and other conditions.
http://gmocannabiswatch.blogspot.ca/2010/11/weeding-out-marijuana-researchers-close.html
 
 
National Grange wants only GMO hemp — with strong-arm enforcement
By Adam Eidinger VoteHemp.com – March 18th, 2010
SOURCE: http://www.westcoastleaf.com/?p=854
 
One of the nation’s leading farming organizations passed a bizarre new
policy statement in support of industrial hemp farming, but only if it is
genetically modified (GMO) and retains cannabis prohibition with very heavy
law enforcement.
 
The National Grange of the Order of Patron of Husbandry, known simply as
“The G r a n g e , ” made the statement in November at its annual m e e t i
n g , against the urging of advocacy groups such as Vote Hemp that GMO hemp
is offensive and unnecessary because varieties of the cannabis with low THC
are widely available in Canada and elsewhere.
http://gmocannabiswatch.blogspot.ca/2010/11/national-grange-wants-only-gmo-hemp.html
 
So while none of this is proof that GM cannabis exists, you must admit it's
all proof that GM cannabis is likely in the future. The FACT that other
drug plants are routinely subjected to GM, and the FACT that cannabis is a
major – if not THE major cash crop on planet earth, and the FACT that GM
cannabis is being discussed repeatedly are facts pertaining to this
discussion that you argue contains no facts.
 
I can't meet you in your office because I'm not allowed into your country
due to my long record of flower crimes and excesses of democracy.
 
How about we continue the important discussion here instead, with you
responding to the above facts, rather than
 
1) lumping me and Letitia together as if we share the same opinion, or
2) pretending there are no facts regarding GM cannabis to discuss.
 
DML
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Miller: A lot o' people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as a bunch o' unconnected incidents 'n things. They don't realize that there's this, like, lattice o' coincidence that lays on top o' everything. Give you an example; show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconsciousness.
 
Otto: You eat a lot of acid, Miller, back in the hippie days?
 
–Repo Man
 
To counter this sort of lysergic thinking is tough, because the afflicted just twist the evidence against their position to be support for their conjectures.
 
So, cognizant of that, for those whom are actually interested in evidence, rather than uninformed expressions of rage. And for the wingnuts, I think I just saw your name written in that cloud over there, along with the date of your death… Back to reality…
 
Most of the transgenic work is focused on taking genes from cannabis and installing them in other plant organisms. Japanese researchers have had some success with this approach with tobacco. Not because they are try to make tobacco that is psychoactive, but to understand how cannabinoid biosynthesis works as part of secondary metabolism in plants.
 
There have been rumors about GMO cannabis being developed by cartels for some time. These rumors seem to be a variation on claims for genetically-modified coca in Colombia. An Italian research team in Rome looked at some samples that were thought to be modified. They weren't. Here's the abstract of their paper.
 
Investigations into the hypothesis of transgenic cannabis.
Cascini F<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Cascini%20F%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=22211569>.
Source
 
Istituto di Medicina Legale, Università Cattolica del S. Cuore, largo F. Vito 1, 00168 Roma, Italy. s..[email protected]
 
Abstract
 
The unusual concentration of cannabinoids recently found in marijuana samples submitted to the forensic laboratory for chemical analysis prompted an investigation into whether genetic modifications have been made to the DNA of Cannabis sativa L. to increase its potency. Traditional methods for the detection of genetically modified organisms (GMO) were used to analyze herbal cannabis preparations. Our analyses support the hypothesis that marijuana samples submitted to forensic laboratories and characterized by an abnormal level of Δ(9)-THC are the product of breeding selection rather than of transgenic modifications. Further, this research has shown a risk of false positive results associated with the poor quality of the seized samples and probably due to the contamination by other transgenic vegetable products. On the other hand, based on these data, a conclusive distinction between the hypothesis of GMO plant contamination and the other of genetic modification of cannabis cannot be made requiring further studies on comparative chemical and genetic analyses to find out an explanation for the recently detected increased potency of cannabis.
 
(C) 2011 American Academy of Forensic Sciences.
 
 
GW Pharma has found that cannabinoid-free "knockout" cannabis can be bred without resorting to any genetic manipulation beyond conventional plant breeding techniques. The use of such cannabinoid-free plants is to produce a true placebo variety of cannabis for research studies.
 
 
Of course, GMO cannabis could be developed. But to say that there are huge interests waiting to develop it is stretching it. Monsanto has exhibited little interest in hemp. There are 249 varieties of cannabis sativa L. that are or have been covered by international plant breeders rights going back to 1949 right up through February of this year, and none of them appear to be have been developed or owned by Monsanto.

So let me get this straight … you're saying that the incentive to grow GM
cannabis isn't there?
 
They're growing GM periwinkle right now:
 
"This newly developed process creates plants that can literally grow
synthetic pharmaceutical compounds, which pharmaceutical companies can then
patent."
http://consciouslifenews.com/genetically-modified-plants-grow-drugs/113036/
 
What do you figure the pharma market for periwinkle is compared to that of
cannabis?
 
Periwinkle is used in cancer therapy:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinca#Medicinal_use
 
Cannabis is also used in cancer therapy … plus 100s of other therapies.
 
Pharmaceutical companies will go to great lengths to create monopolies for
themselves … it allows them to sell Sativex in a market with no
competition – creating millions in profits for them. I really can't see how
you can argue that they want to do this with periwinkle but not cannabis.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Greetings all….
 
I am in the midst of dealing with the death of my mother and do not have time to respond to the lunatic fringe bullshit that seems to be the norm these days on this list. I already unsubscribed 3 times from the other OppCannabis list because I am just over discussing Letitia, Bruce, William, and Sacsterdam Terry Vail (Colorado)'s ignorant and unfounded rhetoric. It is sickening to believe there are people who actually buy into this bullshit, as nearly all of it is based in fear-mongering and attention-seeking. None of the hyperbolic madness coming from this group is even based in reality.
 
George Soros is going to outsource all cannabis growing to Mexico? GMO and Monsanto? Tomatoes? Twinkies? "We have won the tax issue and now will never have taxes on cannabis," "We defeated AB2312. Hooray for us!," and all of this other loathsome and outright FALSE crap that these folks continue to put out.
 
I am not one to run from a fight, but sometimes crazy is just crazy. I can no longer sit here and watch this email list spiral into a forum where these hairbrained crazies suck up all the space with overblown crap about some huge conspiracy, and baseless accusations that go unchecked because these folks have simply exhausted anyone with some sense.
 
So if this is where the conversation is going, and this is what the SaveCannabis list is becoming, then I will be glad to just move on. I am over it. There is a place in this community for good and rational conversation and debate. Unfortunately this forum has been hijacked by the thrill seeking few who believe they have all of the answers, but none of the real solutions. I just cannot stomach the intense level of serious bullshit.
 
I know I have written more than one tangent that some may not have agreed with, but I would like to think I at least try to keep my rhetoric based here on planet earth and discuss real issues that we face as a community, and not this cannabis terrorist- scare the shit out of everyone bullshit we see being put forth now. 
 
I am not saying to remove anyone. God knows I am not for censorship, but I will remove myself because honestly, if this is where the conversation is going, I got better shit to do with my day. It is no longer okay for me to sit back and allow this madness to overcome the dialogue of the movement. If y'all want to speak crazy talk then feel free. But if shit does not come back to earth soon, I will no longer be a part of this discussion group. That is just a fact.
 
Sorry to be the one to break it to you. I do not think the Peppers, Cains, Sacsterdam Vail-Colorados, and others are evil, or as others have suggested, cointelpro. I just think they are ignorant and unwilling to listen. They enjoy the attention their outlandish bullshit brings to them. I, for one, am no longer buying into this crap. I have children. I know a "pay attention to me" statement when I hear one. But I do not need a pack of adult children that need attention so badly that they are willing to say anything to get it. Fuck that shit.
 
I known you crazies are gearing up your attack on me as you read this. Good…..I am your huckleberry. The reality is the more shitty things you say about me, or anyone else for that matter, the better off I am. So fire away, kids. Daddy might give you some more attention if you scream and yell loud enough.
 
For the rest of y'all, whose discussion I do enjoy….any bright ideas where we can take this conversation that is not so overrun by nonsense, distractions, lies and bullshit conspiracies?
 
Mickey Martin
T-Comp Consulting Director
Author of Medical Marijuana 101
www.cannabiswarrior.com
www.tcompconsulting.com
s..[email protected]
(phone#-removed)
http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
 
***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

I also am not one to run from a fight and although newer to this forum, I
accept the challenge of contributing positively to solution based ideas
without resorting to personal accusations, or questioning someone's honesty or
commitment. EVERY person posting has had something worth contributing, but
I also strongly support a moderated forum taking charge of keeping the
discussions on point and constructive while maintaining the right to not post
destructive comments that distract from our mutual goals. That gives us the
best chance for successful actions taking form and for expansion of the
most useful communication tool we have as a group. Mickey, I am sorry to say
there will always be a naive, selfish element within some of the
contributors postings, but I say that those types only make this forum even more
representative of reality because that is what we all experience in most other
areas of our daily lives. If we accept it and allow ourselves to stay
focused on solutions and actions, that element will be exposed, fade away and
eventually become irrelevant. Everyone please continue to be patient and
take this opportunity to recharge, revitalize and recommit to making a bigger
impact than ever before with the maturity and wisdom necessary to take
everything we do to another level. I suggest the first priority is to simply
stage some format of a new, properly defined and moderated unity discussion
to create a framework for action items and assignment of responsibilities.
It may sound a little like work but I say instead of us all getting mad,
let's get busy!

Hello All on this List:
 
 
Some people just don't have the time to deal with debates or read what others may have to say… what ever their reasons are, it is their choice.. but i do not feel that they have a right to think that they are better than the rest on this list because they put some inititaves up and AB2312 is just on hold until things are worked out… and that is the reality behind that issue….
 
I thought about something that may be far schetched but imagine this for a moment and keep an open mind..
 
Imagine a large piece of land outside of city limits… with a large fencing that surrounds that piece of property.. with camera's and security that surrounds it… a large building , in front that will have inside a verification window for new members as well as old members that will be checked in, a waiting room area and called by number or name.. the same setting that we have in our county hospitals… for check in purpses… then once their names are called they will go into a different room and speack with a cannabis representative, which will talk with the patient and then gather this information on his cananbis use and what ever else it may be that this patient perfer to utalize… and once his order is put in,, then the person will be sent to another room , where he /she will receive what the oroder was put forth.. and then he/she will go to a different room to reinvest what is due for the reinbursement for them growing for that patient…  Also
this place will provide a delivery services as well to those whom wish to have their product delievered to them .. in the area that they reside in..  This place will also allow patients to come and work in the garden if they choose on a volentary basic or learn to be on full time to help grow and cultivate.. and receive compensation for doing so.. but not by hourly rate unless agreed upon.. and the volentary patients will come in and sign in before they work the garden… on when they want to come and how much time that they are able to put in, by the growing and cultivation or by working in the office area… or the indoor growing area as well…
 
In the back of the building , would be a large wharehouse, with security surrounding it.. for the indoor growing of the plants.. which will not be over 99 plants inside in each room… Large room for cultivation time, an other room for trimming, and anther room for babies and clones that will also be available for patients that would like to grow for themselves…. and then on the outside there will be a space as well with a larege fencing, closed fencing around the open space with the security fencing surrounding the full area of the garden area, and surrounded by security as well inside as well as sensors surrounding the area… this will be the organic outdoor growing area which will be tended by patients as well.. and there will be a seperate place for harvesting as well as preparing the plants for the garden area… no plants will leave the property until the patients sign out and go to the check out office where they will have a record of how much
time was put into the garden area… and they will receive cannabis in exchange and a agreedable payment also in return for the services that they had provided… but there should be a allotment for those whom would like to participate volentarly and those whom wish to work the garden will be picked by a office person which each week will pull a name from the box that would be in the waiting room so that patients whom wish to participate in the garden area could put their name into this box… and whom ever was picked by this will work the garden area or indoor area… no experience neccesary, if they want to learn.. or those whom have experience will be guided by the full time caregivers of the garden area as well as the indoor area..
 
This place would have allot of delivery drivers whom will delever to one area that each of them are assigned to.. and the patients whom they service and administer to will only have to deal with one person , not different ones, so that they can feel safe within their own being… each delivery service person will be bonded and insured by the company that will be working for.. and each delivery person whom are replaced with another driver , will bring that perosn with them and interduce them to the patient that they will be delivering to… or training for another delivery area…
 
When it comes to eatables and others a special service will be provided by a certified kitchen provided for members whom are licenced by the health department code to cook for the patients and provide variety of eatables for the patient… whom only want to medicate with food instead of the plant itself… that kitchen will be placed in a facility on the side of the office area.. where people would be able to go and order from if they choose and take it home… after they have met their qualificeation first with the front office before they go into the eatable kitchen cannabis area…
 
As far as permits for the running of this place.. this county facility would be inspected by code enfocement to make sure all buildings are under the proper code for running as well as the kitchen area.. to make sure that it is incompliance with the codes of the county.. and the county should give them a letter of approval.. nothing other than that.. not an ordinace.. but a letter of permission to be there… and also the county should be reinbursed for the land use rental of the property provided for safe access to the patients in this area of the county… Each county city should have one large place which will have delivery drivers to provide for that city.. and this place will be run by the patient onsite as well as offsite…
 
Each member of the place will be on a pay scale of thier financial statuse.. For example… a montly amount towrd the dues.. as well as rinbursement for the services provided… if a person is on disability and only make 500.00 a month..should only pay 5.00 for dues and 50 dollars for an ouce..and records should be kept of how much this person will receve or have been given on that date.. as well as a copy of his medi-medi- and proof of income received by the social security office which will be kept in a separate locked up filing cabnet each night.. separate cabinets for each… if the peson is making minium wages, should be paying what pecentage that they are able to put forth from what over the expence of living… like for example.. he only makes 300 a week.. then he will be paying 20.00 dues each month and pay only 100.00 an ounce… as well as what is received… by this person a record is kept.. when it comes to patients whom work on a daily basic
and make more than min.. wages and can afford the prices whom will be paying a higher price no more than 200.00 an ounce.. and the place should also provide our retired military pesons with a 5.00 monly due and a special discount on what they choose to receive…
 
No taxes should be put upon this place at all.. only a permissionable reasonal amounty to be paid the county in order to be there and given by them a letter of approval with a licence that will be put upon the wall as well as given a county health card for providing service to this place to provide to their patients …
 
when it come to outdoor patient growers outside of this place.. the patient should be able to grow for this place as well on a smaller level.. or grow for themselves .  the law enfocement will be able to put a tag on the window.. for appoval for excellent running of the place that provides a service to the patients whom receives safe access… like they do when they check the running of resturants… A for excellent , number one.. B for good, C for fair..
based on the cleanliness and so forth… and then leave when they are done and give the report to the county… as well as the health department…if not the police than appoint another enity. that will be provided by the cannabis association and report to the county as well as the health department…
 
this place should as well provide a counseling center for patients whom have issues to be able to talk openly about their cannabis use without the fear of being put into rehab for their use.. and if they need more health care involved that should also be provided… for the members.. at another place or in another building close by… in case they need over night care…
 
Also a book store should be available on the issue of cannabis for educational purposes as well as meetings.. and a booklet should be provided by this place in order for the patients to learn more about the cannabis that they use… and also be avilable to provide meetings in other areas on the issue of cananbis in the educational tools…
 
Also provided with a booklet of services provided by other members in case they need housekeeping, a caregiver, or a painter, or another service that that patient provides and the information is for patients only.. not for non patients.. this way.. the patient whom needs this kind of service to be done are not in fear or have anxiety because either they are growing and utalizing,, or not.. this way they know that the person comming to their home to do the services that are needed are supportive of the use of cannabis.. and it would stay in the patient to patient networking…
 
When it comes to children, if underage and recomended cannabis.. then the parent will be given a special card in order to provide to their child.. i suggest only eatable form only.. no smoke of the plant itself… and the cannabis should be kept locked up in a refrigerator other than the main refrigerator or cabnent… out of sight from the other children.. that way when their friends come in.. it will not be in the open.. and if your a parent of underage children,, and utalize cannabis , it should be locked up when not in use…as other medications that yu may have..
 
When it comes to granparents and thier grandchildren come by.. then the medication should be put away when they come.. or out of sight.. and if your children are educated and aware of your use of cannabis,, still if they are old enough pass 15 years of age.. then it should still be locked up when not in use.. or not home… so that no underage child will be able to obtain from you without your knowlege… no fines will be given.. but each parent of cannabis should be educated on what to do and not to do around their children… and if a parent provide cannabs to a underage adult without a oral or recomendation for that child .. then their recomendation and grow will be shut down for one year.. and they would have to pay a fine… of 500.00 to the county .. after that year .. and receive their recomendation back and they will be able to grow again…children should be allowed around the plants if they are locked in a security fencing with a lock on it..
to play in the back yard or in the pool or having parties … if the patients whom utalize have a gathering with the children.. then utalizing will be in a separate pace away from the children.. whom will be else where in the surrounding.. like for example.. your having a party and a barbecu.. the children should be playing elsewhere or be a distance when your utalizing your cannabis..
 
No smoking cannabis will be allowed in public areas unless there is permission sign that states you can smoke in that area.. either tobacco or cannabis..
but only in cannabis sticks.. no pipes ect.. incase their are children around… for cannabis sticks look the same as tobacco sticks…
 
NO taxes, NO regulations, NO ordiance… just a letter of approval to be in that area and provide a service to those in need of cannabis..
 
We should be free to grow our own and have a safe place also to obtain if we choose … and the statue of law provides the laws that allows us to do what we do… this is my solution to the issue… all patients whom provide the services to other patients should be allowed to be compensated for theri services… there are no sales .. everyone works together in order to network with other patients.. and compensate the place that provides these services in their county… only… each county should provide the same.. and allow those whom are able to provide a place ,, in each city of the county or three within the county… we do have  county servies for those in need of mecical at a low out of pocket expence… or free.. and these places should be able to provide the same services.. to those whom utlize cannabis…
 
NO Taxes, NO regulations, NO ordinace.. just a letter of approval and to be in that area and provide a service to those in need of cannabis..
 
When it comes to outside events,, each place that provides a service should be in one area only ,, and only those whom utalize will be able to in that section of that area.. separate from the other area that provides entertainment, information booth, retail products, shirts, ect… and so forth.. eating booth.. but no booze or ligure will be permitted on site… only cannabis.. and each patient will provide thier recomendation in order to receive…along with  showing of their drivers licence or health card…
 
anyway.. that is my view .. lol
 
Lavonne Victor

 
________________________________
From: Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2012 2:03 PM

 
Greetings all….
 
I am in the midst of dealing with the death of my mother and do not have time to respond to the lunatic fringe bullshit that seems to be the norm these days on this list. I already unsubscribed 3 times from the other OppCannabis list because I am just over discussing Letitia, Bruce, William, and Sacsterdam Terry Vail (Colorado)'s ignorant and unfounded rhetoric. It is sickening to believe there are people who actually buy into this bullshit, as nearly all of it is based in fear-mongering and attention-seeking. None of the hyperbolic madness coming from this group is even based in reality.
 
George Soros is going to outsource all cannabis growing to Mexico? GMO and Monsanto? Tomatoes? Twinkies? "We have won the tax issue and now will never have taxes on cannabis," "We defeated AB2312. Hooray for us!," and all of this other loathsome and outright FALSE crap that these folks continue to put out.
 
I am not one to run from a fight, but sometimes crazy is just crazy. I can no longer sit here and watch this email list spiral into a forum where these hairbrained crazies suck up all the space with overblown crap about some huge conspiracy, and baseless accusations that go unchecked because these folks have simply exhausted anyone with some sense.
 
So if this is where the conversation is going, and this is what the SaveCannabis list is becoming, then I will be glad to just move on. I am over it. There is a place in this community for good and rational conversation and debate. Unfortunately this forum has been hijacked by the thrill seeking few who believe they have all of the answers, but none of the real solutions. I just cannot stomach the intense level of serious bullshit.
 
I know I have written more than one tangent that some may not have agreed with, but I would like to think I at least try to keep my rhetoric based here on planet earth and discuss real issues that we face as a community, and not this cannabis terrorist- scare the shit out of everyone bullshit we see being put forth now. 
 
I am not saying to remove anyone. God knows I am not for censorship, but I will remove myself because honestly, if this is where the conversation is going, I got better shit to do with my day. It is no longer okay for me to sit back and allow this madness to overcome the

Evening
Everyone  7-9-2012
Just
saw on channel 6 evening news of a Maine Legal MMJ Patient in a rent subsidized
mobile home, has been told "Officially He Can Not Grow His Needed Medical
Marijuana" In A Rent Subsidized Section 8, Or any Other “Federally Funded
Housing Programs in the State Of Maine”
This is
going to be the case in ANY State Of Maine Subsidized Rent Controlled Housing.
I had a
un-official chat via an intermediary with the Head Of Portland Housing about 6
weeks ago on this very topic & concerns. They have “No Options” but to have
to follow “US Federal Law & Policy”
And we
all know very well what the US Federal Policy About Medical Marijuana is. L
I was
told to just “Don’t Tell Them” If You Are A Legal Medical Marijuana Patient? If
you tell them? Then they have No Option But To Deny You Your Subsidized
Housing.
Once
again the Low-Income Sick or Terminal Maine Medical Marijuana Patients are
getting a “Raw Deal” The Low Income Patients Whom Need The Maine State Run
Medical Marijuana Program The Most! Are Once Again Being Denied Safe Legal
Access To Their Maine State Legal Medical Marijuana. "Simply Becuase They Are The Truely Sick & Low Income Maine State Medical Marijauna Patients!
It Only
Costs Roughly $35 Dollars For a Legal Patient To Grow 1 Oz of Medical Marijuana
For Themselves, VS a 1000% Mark-up To Buy Their Medical Marijuana Via One Of
The States 8 Legal Maine Medical Marijuana Dispensary’s, Cost for the patients
to “Legal Buy Their Medical Marijuana” from a Dispensary runs from $340 To $400+
Per Oz + Sales Tax. How Is a 1000% Mark-up At Any Of The 8 Maine State DHHS Controlled
Medical Marijuana Dispensary’s, For Legal Sick Maine State Medical Marijuana
Patients? Considered “Non-Profit..?
Sincerely
Chris
Kenoyer
Maine Patients Coalition
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*Study Published at:*
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358713/pdf/TONEUJ-6-18.pdf
*San Diego, CA:*
The classification of cannabis and its organic compounds as Schedule I
<http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/index.html>prohibited
substances under federal law is scientifically indefensible
<http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/03/government-sponsored-study-destroys-deas-classification-of-marijuana/>,
according to a review
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358713/>published online
in /The Open Neurology Journal/.
 
Investigators at the University of California at San Diego and the
University of California, Davis reviewed the results of several recent
clinical trials assessing the safety and efficacy of inhaled or
vaporized cannabis. They conclude: "Based on evidence currently
available the Schedule I classification is not tenable; it is not
accurate that cannabis has no medical value, or that information on
safety is lacking."
 
Researchers added, "It is true cannabis has some abuse potential, but
its profile more closely resembles drugs in Schedule III (where codeine
and dronabinol are listed)."
 
Under federal law, Schedule I controlled substances are defined as
possessing "a high potential for abuse, … no currently accepted
medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of
accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical
supervision." Heroin and Methaqualone (Quaaludes) are examples of other
Schedule I substances. Cocaine and methamphetamine are classified as
schedule II controlled substances.
 
In 2011, the Obama administration – via the United States Drug
Enforcement Administration (DEA) – formally denied
<http://norml.org/news/2011/07/14/dea-responds-to-nine-year-old-marijuana-rescheduling-petition-maintains-that-cannabis-lacks-medical-utility>a
nine-year-old administrative petition
<http://www.drugscience.org/petition_intro.html>filed by NORML and a
coalition <http://www.drugscience.org/coalition_members.html>of public
interest organizations calling on the agency to initiate hearings to
reassess the present classification of marijuana as a Schedule I
controlled substance without any 'accepted medical use in treatment.' In
her denial of the petition, DEA administrator Michele Leonhart alleged
<http://americansforsafeaccess.org/downloads/CRC_Petition_DEA_Answer.pdf>:
"[T]here are no adequate and well-controlled studies proving
(marijuana's) efficacy; the drug is not accepted by qualified experts.
… At this time, the known risks of marijuana use have not been shown
to be outweighed by specific benefits in well-controlled clinical trials
that scientifically evaluate safety and efficacy."
 
Last month, Ms. Leonhart testified
<http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f47(phone#-removed)>before Congress that she
believed that heroin and marijuana posed similar threats to the public's
health because
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/michele-leonhart-dea-crack-heroin-marijuana_n_1615270.html>,
in her opinion, "all illegal drugs are bad."
 
/For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy
Director, at: s..[email protected] <mailto:s..[email protected]>. Full text of the
study,//"Medical Marijuana: Clearing Away the Smoke," is available
online at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358713/.
<http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358713/>/

Great article. But at the end of the day the only acceptable solution is to DESCHEDULE not RESCHEDULE Cannabis. Beer is on the CSA schedule and neither should Cannabis.
 
Bruce W. Cain
 
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Study Published at:
 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358713/pdf/TONEUJ-6-18.pdf
 
San Diego, CA:
 
The classification of cannabis and its organic compounds as Schedule I prohibited substances under federal law is scientifically indefensible , according to a review published online in The Open Neurology Journal .
 
 
Investigators at the University of California at San Diego and the University of California, Davis reviewed the results of several recent clinical trials assessing the safety and efficacy of inhaled or vaporized cannabis. They conclude: "Based on evidence currently available the Schedule I classification is not tenable; it is not accurate that cannabis has no medical value, or that information on safety is lacking."
 
 
 
Researchers added, "It is true cannabis has some abuse potential, but its profile more closely resembles drugs in Schedule III (where codeine and dronabinol are listed)."
 
Under federal law, Schedule I controlled substances are defined as possessing "a high potential for abuse, … no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision." Heroin and Methaqualone (Quaaludes) are examples of other Schedule I substances. Cocaine and methamphetamine are classified as schedule II controlled substances.
 
 
 
In 2011, the Obama administration – via the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) – formally denied a nine-year-old administrative petition filed by NORML and a coalition of public interest organizations calling on the agency to initiate hearings to reassess the present classification of marijuana as a Schedule I controlled substance without any 'accepted medical use in treatment.' In her denial of the petition, DEA administrator Michele Leonhart alleged : "[T]here are no adequate and well-controlled studies proving (marijuana's) efficacy; the drug is not accepted by qualified experts. … At this time, the known risks of marijuana use have not been shown to be outweighed by specific benefits in well-controlled clinical trials that scientifically evaluate safety and efficacy."
 
 
 
Last month, Ms. Leonhart testified before Congress that she believed that heroin and marijuana posed similar threats to the public's health because , in her opinion, "all illegal drugs are bad."
 
 
 
For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director, at: s..s@a2c2.us . Full text of the study, "Medical Marijuana: Clearing Away the Smoke," is available online at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3358713/ .

I just wanted to share this post by another Re-Legalization group that is seeing through the stupidity of the "tax and regulators." They feel scammed. We feel scammed. And the writing is on the wall:
 
The future for the Legalization is "untaxed, unregulated" self cultivation. As I said yesterday the fat lady is not merely singing, she is doing sommersaults.
 
Bruce W. Cain
 
 
 
HOW GOVERNMENT IS CONTROLLING MEDICAL MARIJUANA -BY STEPHEN GODFREY
 
I want to write here without presuming that others are not aware of what I'm framing in my own words and way…and I'm sure many are aware of what I'm going to write (in their own way(s)). I'm hoping that the way I frame and write of it will make it very clear to those who may not understand the real way gov't works and lives o ff the people like the parasite it is…and this is no different in the case of medical marijuana.
 
There is a philosopher by the name of Hegel who postulated or formed the Hegelian Dialectic…or "PROBLEM-REACTION-SOLUTION"… and this is how the current media coverage of the "need" for larger growers is being manipulated…CLEARLY so, in fact.
 
The gov't is creating the problem by insisting that the individual grower is corrupt, incompetent, ignorant and in danger if left to produce for himself…then, 'coincidentally', the gov't leaks this, or makes it available to the corporate presstitutes (who have a vested interest in controlling MM for profit or keeping it illegal for profit). The press runs to the public to report the illegal activities of a few…who HELLTh Canada itself made legal. The gov't and press know full-well in advance that the public at large will demand (i.e., "REACT") an immediate "solution" (much like the inside job of 9/11)….then the gov't will, again, coincidentally, have the "solution" already waiting: their new rules and regulations, which, by-the-way, will put the full production into a few hands to control…Perhaps friends, colleagues, associates??? SOUND FAMILIAR?? FEEL USED AND SCAMMED folks??
 
And remember, like with a move to world gov't, the sociopaths running this ages-old scam thrive off of centralization of power….The ONLY WAY to control billions from central locations….through fear, war, poverty, mind-control, media, etc. AGAIN….feel scammed?? Does what I write sound familiar and plausible?? Well, if it does you'd now be in agreement that this is the game that gov't uses to control and enslave this prison-planet….FOR MILLENNIA!!
 
Let's STOP this enslavement now! -Stephen Godfrey
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mummsociety/
 
Before I take any of you "tax and regulators" off the list please explain to me how Stephan Godfrey and the rest of us are wrong. Why? Because during our campaign against Prop19 I, Letitia and others were described as Narcs etc. But really if anyone was a NARC in the runup to Prop19 was it not the "tax and regulators?"
 
I specifically insist a reply from Mikki and Chris Conrad. Can't wait to hear what they have to say. How about you?
 
Bruce W. Cain

Attorney J. David Nick is the featured guest on our radio show Marijuana Compassion and Common Sense (MCCS) this Monday, July 9. He will explain how the 2nd District Court opinion ruling that cities cannot ban collective came about and reveal just how it will affect your ability to obtain medicinal marijuana. This is a rare opportunity to hear the attorney who represents the Inland Empire Patients Health and Wellness Center whose case now before the California Supreme Court will decide once and for all if cities and counties can ban collectives and essentially overturn a state law by banning its implementation under their zoning ordinances.
 
Our 2nd guest is investigative author and anti-drug war activists Jeffrey Dhywood who will be providing us with information on Uruguay’s proposal to allow for the legalization of marijuana including sales. More information on this is provided below including a link where you can add your support to this country’s bold, brave and brazen plan.
 
Hear Attorney Nick this Monday, July 9 at 6 p.m. on Marijuana Compassion and Common Sense on IE Talk Radio station KCAA 1050 AM and simulcast at www.kcaaradio.com. Tune in every Monday at 6 p.m. for news, views, humor and insightful interviews of informative guests on the subject dear to your existence – marijuana.
 
OK – here’s my take on the 2nd District Court ruling, the plans by the city of Palm Springs to fine collectives if they do not have a city permit to distribute marijuana (three do) and the Uruguay legalization brouhaha.
 
A major court victory for patients this week was seen in the published opinion of the 2nd District Court of Appeals which firmly and unequivocally ruled that cities cannot ban collectives. Systematically demolishing all the arguments of our opponents, the court recognized that patients have a right under Prop. 215 to safe, reliable and local access to medicinal marijuana and SB420 created collectives as the only legal way patients can exercise that right other than growing their own.
 
In the 2nd District Court, J. David Nick is representing the Alternative Medicinal Cannabis Collective, a collective hauled into court in violation of the ban enacted by Los Angeles County. The arguments made by Mr. Nick at the 2nd District Court of Appeal in opposition to L.A. County’s ban are essentially the same arguments he is making before the California Supreme Court in the landmark lawsuit filed by the city of Riverside against the Inland Empire Patients Health & Wellness Center.
 
It certainly bodes well for the Health & Wellness Center case that the 2nd District Court correctly interpreted state law allowing for collectives instead of the inane ruling by the 4th District Court which banned collectives by creating a marijuana exception to the rights and legal framework found in the laws of California and its constitution.
 
This 2nd Court’s ruling has thrown another monkey wrench into the machinery of local cops working feverishly with their sycophant elected officials to close down as many collectives as they can before the California Supreme Court tells them they can’t.
 
Of course the feds are free to do whatever they want and continue to be schoolyard bullies with their attacks on legally complaint collectives. The feds however can only do so much and the biggest threats most collectives face is still from local cops and not federal cops.
 
In many localities, court cases to ban and lawsuits are being put on hold awaiting the California Supreme Court’s ruling in the Riverside HWC case, but a new tactic is to fine them for operating in violation of their zoning codes and/or operating without a business license, which of course, they cannot get.
 
The city of Palm Springs, the only city in the Inland Empire that allows collectives to operate under their zoning ordinances, will be discussing at their 6 p.m. City Council meeting on Wednesday, July 11 the implementation of fines against the collectives that operate in their city without the required permit. Palm Springs has licensed three collectives to operate, but there are about a half dozen others that operate illegally.
 
Palm Springs has been trying to get these collectives closed by civil court actions, but is not getting anywhere. With proposed fines of $5,000 per week, the city is hoping to make it financially unviable for these collectives to operate. If these collectives can afford the fines, it will at least give the city some significant sums of money for city programs.
 
I have always been aghast at this insidious fine system forcing collectives to close down. However, this has always been in cities or counties that did not allow any to operate. Palm Springs allows three to operate. Palm Springs is not the problem. It is that everyone else doesn’t allow any that’s the problem.
 
I do not believe that Palm Springs should be condemned or criticized for what they are doing. We waste our time and destroy our credibility when we do not support the one city in the Inland Empire that stands up to the threats and intimidation by cops and money grubbing drug warriors and says patients have the right to safe, reliable and local access and actually does something about it.
 
Here’s the scoop on Uruguay.
 
The government of Uruguay has under consideration a proposal to allow for the legal sales of marijuana. It is receiving widespread popular support and appears likely to be implemented. It should come as no surprise that this small, impoverished land locked country is under intense pressure to abandon its proposal to allow for the legalization of marijuana.
 
Raymond Yans, President of the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB), is requesting an urgent meeting with the country’s leaders to discuss the issue and remind the country of its obligations under the international treaties. The treaties, having been designed to leave no space for any form of dissidence, ramp up the pressure in an attempt to force Uruguay to buckle under.
 
Uruguay needs your support. If you haven’t done so yet, I urge you to sign the petition in support of the marijuana legalization project in Uruguay. The petition can be found and signed at: http://www.world-war-d.com/2012/06/22/petition-in-support-of-the-controlled-legalization-of-marijuana-in-uruguay/
 
After signing the petition, share it on your social networks and email lists.

REEFER MADNESS ERA COMIC BOOK
 
We now have two pages of “Abbie And Stats” a 1948 comic book (actually it
reprints older newspaper comic strip comics) that is a must read for
anyone. Story seems to have something to do with a Japanese girl spy who
gives Abbie a special Kamikaze cigarette etc.
 
If anyone wants, feel free to ask for copies, we can email them out to
you. At this time we only have two pages but we should have the whole
comic book within the next three weeks or so.
 
 
Abbie an Slats With Becky
#3 June 1948 [Story has no title]
 
Antique Andy
Museum Curator
s..s@a2c2.us
www.AntiqueCannabisBook.com
www.ReeferMadnessMuseum.org
 
To add-remove yourself from the museum’s mailing list:
http://drugsense.org/lists/listform.htm?antiquecannabismuseum–
 
 
 
 
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