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August 21, 2012 – Digest for s..s@a2c2.us – 21 Messages in 12 Topics

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 20 08:49PM -0700  

    Thx david for answers. Answer and caring about bringing everyone on board
    is what didnt happen with monopoly crew. I'm on board if anyone can tell
    me where the ship is. Draft?mtg times ? Happy to help build a fair and
    equal coalition to do something good for EVERYONE
    On Aug 20, 2012 7:58 PM, "David Malmo-Levine" <s..s@a2c2.us> wrote:




    Donna Lambert <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 11:33AM -0700  

    It is important when drafting legislation to be clear.  I think considering the obvious exclusion of maintaining the medical marijuana patients right to grow, it would be good to have a statement in writing on exactly where Judge Gray stands on prop 215 and the patients right to grow marijuana AS NEEDED.  Prop 215 does not have plant limits.  Prop 19 excluded the patients right to grow but allowed a general 5 plants for everybody.
    Let us have in writing Judge Grays intent and opinion regarding a medical marijuana patients right to grow the amount of plants they feel is needed for their medical condition. 
    Neither you are I speak for him.  As he is instrumental in crafting Kubby's iniatives I think these issues should be on the table
    Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:38 AM
    So have I. Many times. His deeds speak louder than your impressions. 
    On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Donna Lambert <s..s@a2c2.us> wrote:
    Ask him yourself, I have talked with him personally on this issue.




    David Jack <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 03:06PM -0700  

    Hi Donna,
    Judge Gray was the Chief Proponent of RMLW and as such has signed his
    name to that initative. That should give you a good idea of where he
    stands. I do not know where the "no plant limits" comes from that you
    wrote of. Even /Kelly /had guidelines/limitations.
    David Jack
    On 8/21/2012 12:06 PM, Donna Lambert wrote:


    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 07:16PM -0700  

    How about just share the draft and be inclusive.


    s..s@a2c2.us Aug 21 09:56PM -0400  

    I am a woman stoner coming out green. I've had a love affair with pot for 45 years because cannabis hemp makes my mind, body, spirit feel better, always. I love pot also because it's a real and immediate solution to saving the planet as I learned in Jack's Emperor. In support, I have written and self-produced a stageplay, TOKE, a socially conscious comedy/drama about Weedee, a big hearted soccer mom who crashes through the suburban tupperware wall with the courage to admit she inhales.

    As the play opens, Weedee sneaks a toke hiding behind the clothesline so her children won't see her. By the end she witnesses a dispensary bust and is empowered to discover her higher calling as a committed cannabis hemp activist by way of a high energy protest at the White House, with the Pot Fairy by her side.
    TOKE review from Cannabis Culture:

    TOKE just finished a successful 5 week run in Sacramento, resulting in a nomination for an Elly Award in the category of Original Works, as judged by the Sacramento Area Regional Theater Alliance, winners to be announced Sept. 23. I am in the process of putting this TOKE performance on dvd. If anyone is interested in seeing my play I can send a copy when it is ready. Thank you. Deedee Kirkwood www.toketheplay.com.


    KC <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 04:05PM -0700  

    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    Hello Everyone,
    I have a 30-minute meeting with Tom McClintock in September. He is wiling
    to promote HR 6335. His staff has instructed us to draw up a public
    statement that the Congressman can make condemning the letters issued by
    the US Attorney's threatening asset forfeiture on collectives and patients.
    He is willing to stand up for this based on 10th Amendment Rights.
    We are claiming that the Feds have seized personal property from patients
    who were in compliance with State law – sometimes without charges or a
    trial. We need 3 or 4 good examples of this to show the Congressman.
    It will backfire on us if McClintock makes a statement and we don't have
    examples to back up our claims. If anyone is aware of anyone who would be
    willing to come forward, please send me the details ASAP. This is too good
    of an opportunity to pass up!
    We hope to build our relationship with Tom so that he will introduce bills
    to protect our rights rather than just co-sponsoring them. Politics does
    indeed make strange bedfellows!
    Patricia Smith
    ASA-Nevada County


    brenda kershenbaum <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 02:51PM -0700  

    —– Forwarded Message —–
    Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:06 PM


    women who are protecting their Right to engage in trade.
    Jan Irvin
    asked me to follow up here.                    
    It is my intention and desire to assist
    you all into becoming a powerful force of many without becoming a single targetable
    group or organization. By working individually, but together as a unit maintaining all your Rights while keeping away from Attorneys, we can protect
    the valuable service each of you provide for your community.
    Disclosure: For
    the Record, I nor any of the folks working with me give any form of Legal
    Advice, as only an Attorney can legally do such a thing. We do not practice
    Legal Law, we simply protect our own Rights. For the Record I am not an Attorney,
    nor are any of the Folks working with me. One does not need to be an Attorney
    in order to be able to see and fight injustice. One does not need to be an
    Attorney to be learned in the law (non-legal law) in order to access a Lawful
    Tribunal where a man’s natural Rights must be upheld.
    Facts to be considered:
    Dispensaries operate legally under a license. Those Legal Licenses have not
    been voided or cancelled (as far as I can tell) by the City's ordinance no.
    182190.  A "license" is
    defined by Bouviers Law Dictionary as:  LICENSE, contracts. A
    right given by some competent authority to do an act, which without such
    authority would be illegal.The
    instrument or writing which secures this right, is also called a license.
    Any attempts by the City or State Employees to violate the terms of the License
    without cause related directly to the current contract/license will be
    considered an illegal breach of contract giving cause to each individual Licensee
    to bring suit separately for damages against such employee or elected employee.
    2) The
    creation of this corporate ordinance specifically interferes with Prop 215
    which states:
    To encourage the federal and state
    governments to implement a plan for the safe and affordable distribution of
    marijuana to all patients in medical need of marijuana.
    The city is
    inhibiting the people’s will, and is going directly against this law of the
    people requiring government to provide "safe and affordable distribution of marijuana". Instead, it is
    taking away that ability, without the benefit of law, and with no cause of
    action for charging a fine. The City municipal corporation is claiming harm by
    you, without citing a specific victim. If there is no victim or injury there
    is no crime?
    To ensure
    that qualified Californians have access to marijuana for the medical purposes
    recommended by a physician who has determined that the person’s health would
    benefit from the use of marijuana in the treatment of cancer, anorexia, AIDS,
    chronic pain, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraine or any other illness,
    each provider must uniteindependently with all others.
    These City Officials
    are obstructing the ability of "Californians
    to obtain… marijuana" – a direct violation of the people's will and
    State law. The State law created by the voters (people) will not be superseded
    by the municipal corporation’s council claiming under color of law to be acting
    on behalf of the people. As licensed providers, this opinion of the council
    through its prima facie ordinance does not in any way effect your license to do
    Sec. 2. If any provision of this new
    measure or the application thereof to any person or circumstance is held
    invalid, that invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications of
    the measure which can be given effect without the invalid provision or
    application, and to this end the provisions of this measure are severable.
    The City has
    not provide a legal basis for invalidation of the people's will, as it has not
    shown invalidation of the people's law, Prop 215, or any section thereof. In
    fact, the City has stated clearly that it is waiting for the State Supreme
    Court to rule on this subject. Therefore, the City is not within its legal
    jurisdiction to pass this ordinance until such time as the courts have ruled.
    In short, the City's bark has no bite.
    3) Finally,
    these letters of coercion, which threaten to fine legal licensed dispensaries
    $2,500 per day after a certain date in September have no legal power. They are threats, backed
    up by brutal force but not law. The way to fight coercive color of law is by demanding the proof of their authority to enforce anything upon you; be that as
    a citizen or Licensee or as a free man. Any enforceable fine must be part of
    the original agreement (license) or it is fraud. Trespassers can only perpetrate fraud
    upon you with impunity if you consent to it.
    It is my intention
    and desire to get all currently licensed dispensaries in good standing who are willing to protect
    their own Rights to work together. The worst thing we can do is to place all of our
    power into one class action case under an "Attorney". To
    "attorn" is to give up your rights; an Attorney will make you into
    one who is incompetent and a ward of the court subject to its will/decisions. This is exactly where the City corporation wants you – in an easily managed, uninformed group led by an officer of the court.
    One of the results which
    come from working independently but together is that the City Municipal
    Corporation’s efforts become un-profitable. A hundred or one thousand or more of you standing
    up for your Rights in Court individually will cause these Officials to rethink
    their assault on your Rights.
    going into more detail, I will leave you with this.
    The stance
    to take with these Municipal and State Corporations is to make your Demands and
    make them prove theirs.
    You are the authority, but you
    have to express it – you must answer the City's "request" for compliance of its opinion by saying NO, I do not consent. You must respond to all requests, lest they become contract.
    You have a limited time to respond, as the letters gave a September date as required by law to respond. If you do not respond and demand cause of action, you will be bound by the opinion presented. Non-response is considered consent to these organized criminals.
    can be forwarded to this email.
    Richardson and company-


    YouTube Service <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 02:44PM -0700  

    asandusky78 has shared a video with you on YouTube:

    10 Years to Life for Medical Marijuana: The Trial of Aaron Sandusky

    "This is a Constitutional battle, and we're going to defend our rights," says Aaron Sandusky, the owner of a medical marijuana dispensary in Upland, California who now faces federal drug trafficking charges even though he was operating within California state law.
    Reason.tv first profiled Sandusky in late 2011 in the midst of a federal crackdown on marijuana dispensaries across California, which occurred despite repeated promises from the Obama administration to lay off operators compliant with state law (Incidentally, the city of Upland, which initiated the legal action against G3, admitted in court that Sandusky was operating within state law). During the production of that video, Sandusky's storefront and grow house were raided, his assets seized and his product destroyed. But Sandusky was undeterred and joined a lawsuit with several other dispensary owners, challenging the right of city governments to outright ban dispensaries. After a favorable ruling from an appellate court, …


    Tim Perkins <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 08:22AM -0700  

    Stumping for donations is all failed magazine, failed candidate, and
    failed self appointed "pot gurus" do. All of which are deadly
    liabilities to cannabis. The "back of the wagon, medicine show, sleazy
    slick salesman crap just oozes off the page and serves as a cred
    killer.The source of the message is the problem that needs to be removed
    from the process. Glory Whores are the reason there is no progress.



    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 20 10:00PM -0700  

    Ok Bruce happy to work on. Let's comunicate directly.




    Steve Kubby <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 02:58AM -0700  

    Judge Jim Gray Speaks to Enthusiastic Crowds at Hempfest in Seattle
    Posted by C. Michael Pickens on Monday, August 20th, 2012 in Blog
    Libertarian Vice-Presidential Candidate, Judge Jim Gray spoke twice at this year’s Seattle Hempfest. First time at the, “Legalize it! Movie Premier Preview & Panel: Behind the Scenes of Prop. 19” and the second time on the Main Stage.

    “Honestly, I never in my life thought I would be in a place like this and I am among friends. It’s amazing, some of the very best people I have met in my life, I have met as a result of drug policy reform, and that means you” Followed by loud shouts and a roaring applause.

    Judge Gray continued to talk of his experience as a former prosecutor, drug warrior, and Judge.

    “Back in 1992, I did something very unusual for a sitting trial court judge, I held a press conference announcing to the world…what we are doing with regards to drug policy is simply not working, it’s failing, we must repeal drug prohibition.”

    The leadership that Judge Jim Gray has shown from 1992 until today brings many people hope. People who have family and friends locked in cages for non-violent victimless crimes, those who are locked in cages for victimless crimes, and the tax payers who are tired of paying for and supporting a failed social policy.

    Judge Jim Gray does not use marijuana, but he respects and defends the natural rights of someone else to use marijuana. Judge Jim Gray does not have a dog in this fight, yet he still fights for the rights of others. This is the leadership that exudes from the Libertarian Presidential ticket right now.

    Judge Jim Gray went on to say, “If we are going to get our country back, if we are going to bring back prosperity, equal opportunity, and freedom to the United States of America, your only choice for President this November is Governor Gary Johnson”

    Needless to say, Judge Jim Gray and the Gary Johnson Campaign, with support from the Libertarian Party of Washington’s booth, was a hit at this year’s Hempfest.

    The Johnson/Gray Presidential ticket was verbally endorsed on stage by many other speakers at Hempfest including but not limited to:

    Julia Rose, The Curator of the Peter McWilliams Online Museum
    Steve Kubby, RegualteMarijuana 2014 Chief Officer and Campaign Manager
    Jodie Emery, Wife of “Prince of Pot” Marc Emery; Cannabis Culture Headquarters & Magazine, Director
    Stephen Collett, California Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Initiative, Treasurer
    Dr. David Bearman, M.D. American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine, Vice President & Board Member; ASA, Board; Patients Out of Time, Advisory Board Member; Author ‘Demons, Discrimination and Dollars: A Brief History of the Origins of American Drug Laws’
    Dan Katzir, “Legalize It!” the movie, Director
    Dan Rush, United Food and Commercial Workers International Union- Director, National Medical Cannabis and Hemp Division
    Ravit Marcus, “Legalize It!” the movie, Producer

    C. Michael Pickens is the Author of the book, “Libertarian Leadership: Planting the Seed for a Libertarian Future” and the Washington State Campaign Director for the Gary Johnson Campaign.


    Catherine Cusic <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 21 02:43AM -0700  

    Why LGBT and HIV against this? Because honey we have ARRIVED. We have HRC representing the 1% oh LGB (sorry no T's). We have queers who want to be Republicans (Log Cabin outdated-these are for real).
    In short we now have enough smug right wing gays to make Alice Club look like your local Trotskyist chapter.
    Catherine Cusic (who lives in Mission BTW).
    Sent from my iPhone


    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Aug 20 09:14PM -0700  

    Ok mickey I like the punch to throat for mention of govt agent b.s. if you
    question. How about a concrete plan to not allow hijacked of efforts by
    lobby? What happened to moneys raise by failed 2312,curious. As far as us
    crips and sicky people the vote from our patient advocate committee was not
    to support anything that cross sb420. As long as we can strengthen truly
    affordable safe access and not create cannbe monopolys or create New crimes
    and play to pay schemes and broaden cannabis freedom and keep poor family's
    together and dads out of jail,what reasonable patient advocate wouldn't