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Cannabis & Hemp Freedom Act of 2014, California – Rev 1.35

From: Dennis Hinze – December 4, 2012

Legal age to smoke, ingest or whatever for cannabis/marijuana: 18. The 18′s can vote and go off to war ~ some places they can even legally imbibe alcoholic beverages. When you craft your initiative, age for legal use should be eighteen. ~ Dennis Hinze

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August 25, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 8 Messages in 4 Topics

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 23 09:14PM -0700  

    Angela on spot with that. We all moving parts organized and ready 2014
    isn't far off!

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 24 07:22PM -0700  

    Not RE but DE schedule. End prohibiting.

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 24 06:51PM -0700  

    Everyone welcome , there will be additional speakers from harm reduction
    movement.

     

 

    Dennis Hinze <s..[email protected]> Aug 24 10:43AM -0700  

    Starchild ~ How far back do you remember? People who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 virtually gave the election to George W. Bush. This was a catastrophe that could have been avoided if all those Naderites had realized he could never win and voted for Gore.  ~dh
     
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    >    I hear you. It's a tough row to hoe, kind of like how many folks who've been in this for a while expected marijuana to be legal by now. Alternative parties and candidates have been fighting for real multi-party democracy in the United States for years.
     
    >    The biggest thing keeping Gary Johnson, like so many before him, from getting more votes appears to be what we often call the "myth of the wasted vote". This comes into play when people try to game the system by voting *based on how they expect other people to vote*, rather than voting based on their own best judgement of who is the best candidate for office. The thought process generally goes something like, "I'd like to vote for candidate A, but I don't think he/she has a chance to win, so I'm going to vote for Candidate B, in order to keep Candidate C from getting elected, so that I don't waste my vote."
     
    >    Key to overcoming the myth of the wasted vote, I think, is educating people to understand that when they vote in a national election, *they are not voting to decide the outcome*. The chances of one actually vote changing the outcome are so infinitesimally tiny as to not be worth worrying about. Even in the once-in-a-lifetime-close 2000 election, even someone living in the state that ended up determining the result — Florida — would have had to convince *several hundred people* to change their votes in order to change the outcome. And rarely is it ever anywhere near that close. If by some miracle of miracles the national vote results ever were a single vote apart — something roughly as likely as the exact same person randomly winning a multi-statel lottery *twice*, or getting hit by a meteorite a minute after saying, "I wonder if I'll get hit by a meteorite today" — there would likely be recounts, court involvement, and so on, as we saw in
    2000, and the vote totals would change before it was over so that the winning side was ahead by more than a single vote.
     
    >>> The CHOOM will rise again….
    >>> Posted by Mickey Martin on August 22nd, 2012
     
    >>> A lot of people, including myself, are down on Obama because of his failures to protect medical cannabis, his kill list, and a number of other issues that progressives like myself find very disappointing. The fact is that Barrack Obama had a lot of “very high” expectations for his Presidency, and has not been able to fulfill the hopes and dreams of every progressive and liberal (or conservative for that matter). I truly love how people in this Country believe that the President is capable of changing, or responsible for, every issue we face as a nation and a planet. I’ll be damned if one guy cannot fix the second worst economy in our history, deal with two wars he did not start, end global warming, end the drug war, advance gay rights, solve immigration, and solve every other major problem facing us with a congress bent on blocking EVERY effort pur forth by himself in 44 months. I mean really…what the fuck did this guy think we hired him for
    anyways?

     

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 23 09:18PM -0700  

    http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2012/08/medical_marijuana_supreme_court_long_beach.php

     

August 16, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 9 Messages in 9 Topics

    s..[email protected] Aug 16 08:15PM -0400  

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:50PM -0700  

    Time to make allot of noise. Pls post everywhere.
    On Aug 15, 2012 1:15 PM, "Patient Advocacy Network" <

     

 

    Angela Bacca <s..[email protected]> Aug 16 09:25AM -0700  

    Know anything about spy drones? Perhaps you are in the cultivation
    industry? I am writing a piece for SKUNK Magazine and will be in the area
    tomorrow through the weekend. I would love to interview you or anyone you
    know. Please email me!
     

    Angela Bacca
    (415) 515-7483
    aeiouyyyy.com
    Twitter: @AngelaBacca
    Facebook.com/angelabacca

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 16 01:22AM -0700  

    http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINL2E8JD9IF20120815?irpc=932

     

    Steve Kubby <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 11:09PM -0700  

    SEE VP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE JIM GRAY SPEAK
    AT SEATTLE HEMPFEST ON SATURDAY, MAIN STAGE, 3:50 PM
     
     
     
    Vice Presidential Candidate Jim Gray
     
    discusses the war on drugs and Ron Paul
     
    http://www.examiner.com/article/vice-presidential-candidate-jim-gray-discusses-the-war-on-drugs-and-ron-paul
     
     
    With the Presidential election less than three months away, and with presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney prematurely selecting Paul Ryan as his running mate, the national media has provided a strong implication that voters are reduced to two less than ideal candidates. Some have even gone so far as to suggest that Paul Ryan is somehow a Libertarian candidate and his selection is an olive branch to Ron Paul supporters. Anyone who knows Congressman Ryan’s record, that he supports big war, that he voted for NDAA, TARP, and that his so called fiscally conservative budget proposal would only balance the budget in 30 years and requires raising the debt ceiling, knows that he believes in limited government libertarian principles as much as Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden.
     
    If Birmingham (or national) libertarians were to only pay attention to the national media the feeling would be dismal, that we have a choice between two sides of one big government party, thankfully that is not the case. There is a true Libertarian running for the Presidency, his name is Gary Johnson. He has already secured the Libertarian Party’s nomination, and unlike Governor Romney, followed proper protocol in selecting a running mate. Judge Jim Gray should alleviate any of the fears Ron Paul supporters have about Gary Johnson. Recently I had a chance to sit down and discuss some of the issues with Judge Gray, and the first topic that came up was the war on drugs and Dr. Paul:
     
    Q. Are you in favor of the ‘regulate marijuana like wine’ initiative?
     
    A. Heavens yes, I’ve been called the chief proponent.
     
    Q. What about those who say government doesn’t need more revenue?
     
    A. Honestly, that’s one of the biggest problems I have trouble answering, because I think the government does have more money than it needs, but today the biggest oxymoron of our lives, without exception, the biggest oxymoron is the term ‘controlled substances,’ because as soon as we prohibit something we give up all of our control what so ever, in regards to price, quality, quantity, licensing, age restrictions, all of these we give up, to what? We give them up to Juvenile gangs, drug cartels, and a lot of other thugs. I can’t tell you I know about Alabama, but in California, Marijuana is the largest cash crop in our state, number two is grapes, and this money is going to fuel lots and lots of bad results. So, let’s regulate it, control it, and tax it and then reduce taxes in other areas because I fully agree, and certainly as a libertarian, the government has enough money, they are just misspending it, but that is a different issue. What we do not want to do, and cigarettes is another good example, cigarettes are a big killer, they kill something like ‘half a million’ Americans each year because they themselves smoke, so if the government worried about our health, they should make cigarettes illegal, but that would just bring Al Capone and Mexican drug cartels into the cigarette distribution business, so that’s not a good idea, so let’s reduce taxes in other areas, but treat Marijuana like wine, and by the way, treat hemp, which is a viable industrial product, treat that like cotton, just raise it just like we do cotton.
     
    Q. Does it stop at marijuana? Should heroin be legal?
     
    A. You know, let’s start with marijuana, I have my own opinions, and directly answering your question, Switzerland has had heroin under the control of medical doctors for about the last 15 years, where they can prescribe it to heroin addicted people. The results are that no onehas died from an overdose, nobody has encountered aids, and they’re pretty much normal lives. They are 50% higher employment, they are paying their taxes, they are off the dole, they are supporting their families, so I would certainly be in favor of doing that, and there are other issues as well, but honestly let’s just start with marijuana, we’ll all learn from the experience, and then we’ll see where to go next.
     
    Q. Does ending the war on drugs or regulating marijuana mean drugs will be legal in all 50 states?
     
    A. The Federal Government was really sneaky in 1913 and again in 1933. In 1913 the Harrison Narcotics act was a tax measure, same thing with the marijuana tax act of 1933, they did not prohibit it, they just attached ridiculously high taxes on the transaction, it was only Richard Nixon that actually made it prohibited. What we should do is, when we finally repealed alcohol prohibition and we came to our senses, we did not say that Alabama, Nebraska, or Utah will provide alcohol, all we did was say the federal government is no longer involved in this. Each state can decide best how to treat the issue and the federal government’s role is reduced to assisting each state in enforcing its chosen law. That’s where we should go with regards to these other drugs also. It’s called the concept of federalism actually. Our country was based on that concept.
     
    Q. Shifting gears a little, what do you say to the Ron Paul supporters who say Ron Paul or none at all?
     
    A. The first thing to say is Ron Paul has already won the election. He has mainlined, mainstreamed the whole libertarian philosophy. He will go down in history, rightfully, as having changed the discussion, changed the emphasis, but having said that, he is not going to get the Republican nomination. So, by the middle of August or after the Republican convention, I applaud the Ron Paul supporters, but I’m going to welcome them to our family, they are actually already in it, many of them probably know it, I know full well they will never support Obama, I know full well they will never support Romney, and if they really want to (continue) making a difference, look at what Governor Johnson not only says but has done in New Mexico as Governor, and by the way you can look at my record as a trial court judge for 25 years, we actually stand for pretty much everything Dr. Paul stands for, and so we are welcoming them to our family, we appreciate their support, and I think that once they see what their options are they will, and should, flock to the support of Governor Gary Johnson, and by the way, I’m sure they are all aware that Ron Paul’s son Rand Paul has endorsed Romney, which I found as a shock. I never saw that one coming and I’m just amazed that has happened.
     
    Q. Did Rand sell out the movement?
     
    A. I’m not able to comment on that, we are living in a real world, I’m not an intimate adviser or confidant of Rand Paul, I admire him, I admire more his father. It just surprised me, in fact it shocked me. I was disappointed. Why? I think you have to ask him.

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:44PM -0700  

    Pls share n post
    On Aug 15, 2012 1:09 PM, "Patient Advocacy Network" <

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:41PM -0700  

    Pls share
    On Aug 15, 2012 12:53 PM, "Patient Advocacy Network" <

     

    Dennis Hinze <s..[email protected]> Aug 15 10:08PM -0700  

     Save Cannabis ~ Happy to see you are still with us, Mickey. You have a refreshing and pragmatic view of the marijuana legalization situation. It is becoming increasingly easy to see that many people in the pot market have an axe to grind…their personal interest. Like any lobbyists, trying to get laws passed that favor their activities. Like any big business, trying to undercut the little guy. Keep up the good work. We may draft a successful initiative for 2014 or 2016, if Nature is kind enough to keep us from roasting before then. ~ All the best to you and your's. ~ Dennis Hinze
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June 26, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 16 Messages in 3 Topics

 

    Dennis Hinze <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 12:56AM -0700  

    It's all your fault, Mickey! All to your credit? Ultimately, it was bad legislation. That's reason enough.
     
     
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    Pebbles Trippet <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 03:25AM -0700  

    I believe the reason Ammiano pulled his bill is because the entire
    patient community,
    including ASA and MAPP, freaked out, calling it a "disaster", that at
    the urging of the League of Cities,
    he had replaced the clause requiring a vote of the people to ban
    collectives with the clause
    allowing a simple vote of a local legislative body to ban collectives –
    "if an ordinance or regulation authorizing that restriction has been
    lawfully enacted by the city, county or city and county".
     
    This new language would have authorized bans by statute from a simple
    vote of a Board of Supervisors or City Council
    rather than voters at an election and ASA would have been held
    responsible for the setback.
     
    From what Lanny has reported, ASA insisted the language be reversed
    to include the original voter requirement for bans clause
    before the Senate Committee proceeded to a vote, potentially
    recommending that AB2312 be sent to the Senate floor for consideration.
    Lanny put out an "emergency" call for the community to contact the
    Senate Committee members, urging them to reject the prohibition
    language.
    To avoid a civil war, Ammiano pulled the plug.
     
    The medical cannabis community has clearly reached the point where we
    will not tolerate bans of our rightful collective associations,
    judging by how the prohibitionists' ban-enabling legislation was just
    stopped, even though it meant derailing the legislation until next year.
     
    My guess is that neither ASA nor CaNORML knew that Ammiano had gone
    along with the League of Cities on the language swap
    and that it was done as a behind-closed-doors breech of principle to
    enable the passage of the bill in the Assembly.
     
    Once it passed, it was too late to reverse course…the prohibitionist
    strategy was underway,
    that strategy being to cement city and county bans of patient
    collectives thru enabling legislation passed by the Legislature
    to advance a prohibition agenda over the next year before the Supreme
    Court can issue its ruling banning bans as an impermissible
    modification of 215.
     
    Under the circumstances, ASA did the right thing by refusing to go
    along with the ban plan, even though it meant abandoning the
    legislation.
     
    This incident points out how precarious working with politicians is
    and suggests that ballot initiatives, where the voters legislate, is a
    wiser course.
     
    It would be nice if we could have some transparency about the strange
    process that just happened.
    ASA, CaNORML, MAPP, please share with us what is going on.
     
    pebbles
     
     
     

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 06:50AM -0700  

    It is always all my fault…..and the kind of credit I get is never a good thing. LOL.
     
    Hopefully we are talking adult use for an initiative. Maybe CO will get it done and open the door for real progress. I think it is gonna be bigger though…
     
    Summer of Buds…
     
     
     

     

 

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 08:20AM -0700  

    I am pretty sure they knew. That language has been swapped for weeks.
     
    I will disagree with you (and others) on 19, Mike. Yes..,it did allow for cities and Counties to opt out of having weed stores, but I would trade that in a minute to quit arresting tens of thousands of mostly poor people every year for weed. Was 19 perfect….not even close. But by my metric it decreased prohibition, and did not expand it.
     
    Net positive for cannabis freedom. I am not silly enough to believe the perfect situation will arise from a broken system. I base my support on a simple rubric…will more people or less people go to jail for weed?
     
    Simple stuff….
     
     

     

 

 

 

    Dale Gieringer <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 11:37PM +0100  

    Cal NORML endorsed Prop 19 only with reluctance, on a very close vote by our board.
    Previous to doing so, we did everything we could to dissuade Richard from pursuing it, but once he decided to do so we felt we had no choice but to support it.
    As for taxation, our view has always been that cannabis should be regulated like alcohol, and therefore subject to taxation. Prescription use should be tax exempt, but cannabis is not presently available by prescription, but rather by recommendation, which is legally different. At present MMJ is most comparable to Chinese herbal medicines, which are subject to sales tax.
     
    Sent from my iPad
     

     

 

    Dale Gieringer <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 11:42PM +0100  

    Pebbles
    You are quite right that none of us were consulted beforehand about the League of Cities amendment. After it was adopted we dropped our support for the bill as amended.
    Dale
     
    Sent from my iPad
     

     

 

 

 

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 26 09:21AM -0700  

    AB 2312 dies a mysterious death
    Posted by Mickey Martin on June 26th, 2012
    Your guess is as good as mine as to why CA Assemblyman Tom Ammiano pulled AB 2312 before it had a chance to reach the State Senate. Some think it was because the Amendments concerning the tax rate and the allowance of cities and counties to ban dispensaries with a simple resolution gave too much power to our opposition. It could be because Ammiano knew he did not have the votes in its current form, and knew that it would be amended further beyond recognition in the Senate. The result was an abrupt yanking of the legislation yesterday with little notice or discussion.
    Some may think I opposed AB 2312. That is not a valid assessment. My position was one of non-support versus opposition. I will NEVER support an effort that expands prohibition, whether or not I believe it is a necessary evil. It is just not going to happen. If there is an initiative, legislation, ordinance, or resolution that limits the existing structure and increases the amount of people who could potentially go to jail for weed, count me out. I am not with all that.
    But what is the future of medical cannabis in California without statewide regulations? Will the all-out assault on our community continue because this legislation failed? Not likely. I mean, I do not think that the US Attorneys are sitting in their office making decisions based on AB 2312, or any other law for that matter. The reality is those decisions are being made and shots are being called by the big business and lobbying groups that control our government. Has Colorado been hit less? Maybe….but they are also a cool 15 years behind California in cannabis evolution.
    What has happened in Colorado is undoubtedly expanded prohibition. There were almost 150,000 patients in the program in 2010. There are just over 90,000 now. After regulations came to be, many small growers went by the wayside and could not compete with the burdensome regulations. Those growers have went back to being outlaws. Tens of thousands of patients have decided it was easier to risk criminal sanctions than participate in the “program” there. Is that what we are working towards? Less access and more criminals to appease the feds? Why?
    It is this “fuck some people to save another” mentality that is worrisome, and is why AB 2312 was opposed by many in the community. The bill established a 9-person commission charged with regulating the industry. This is a huge mistake IMO. Why? Because it leaves too much to chance with a group who we have no idea of what they will think the right amount of regulations would be. A better idea is to actually spell out and establish the actual regulatory model in the legislation, and let everyone know just what the bill is going to do to the industry. I think we all can agree that the cannabis movement/industry does not do well with the unknown. There are a lot of very imaginative folks who can, and normally will, anticipate the worst. At least having a clear framework will allow people to agree or disagree on actual policy, instead of imagining what policy a commission will eventually hand down.
    But I think the longer we continue to fight for medical cannabis dispensaries (which I am a big fan of BTW), we are not fighting to quit taking people to jail for weed. Those are two very different projects. I have many friends that operate cannabis dispensing collectives. I would love to believe that there was a path to protecting their organizations. I just do not see it. The goal posts keep moving too much for that ever to be a reality.
    The real path to cannabis freedom and to a cannabis market where people can compete and work hard for their market share is adult use legalization. There is not time, resources, or energy in this movement to fight our battle on many different fronts. We must begin to consolidate our message and demand for an end to cannabis prohibition. I am glad that we have nearly 1,000 dispensaries in California and maybe a million delivery services. But I would NEVER trade what we have now for real cannabis freedom. I would never trade my limited medical immunity for the opportunity to feel free and relaxed in my life. I want for cops to quit searching my car and my pockets because I smell like weed. They still do that, even if I have a doctor’s note. That is the shit I want to end.
    So while AB 2312 has died a mysterious death, we can be sure this conversation will rear its ugly head again soon. I will remain neutral and in non-support if it is an effort that expands prohibition. I will continue to focus my efforts and energy on the bigger picture of ending this shit once and for all. If the rest of these Nancies want to keep begging for more rules from lawmakers to help protect their dispensaries from the long arm of Federal law then they can miss me on that shit. I will be the guy in the background screaming “QUIT TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL FOR WEED. IT’S NOT WORKING!!!”
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    Author of Medical Marijuana 101
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
    http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
    http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
     
    ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

     

June 18, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 25 Messages in 16 Topics

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 09:01PM -0700  

    pls share with your friends! I will forward patient for compassionate
    policy info to all.
     
     
    Greetings Los Angeles Patient Advocates & Providers –
     
    While the official agenda for Friday’s LA City Council meeting is not yet
    published, (follow this link for updates:
    http://lacity.org/SubMenu/CityMeetingsAgendas/index.htm, the rumors in
    City Hall are that the Los Angeles City Council will take its final vote
    to ban collectives in Los Angeles during THIS Friday’s City Council
    meeting.
     
    The LA City Council meets three times a week on Tuesday, Wednesday and
    Friday at 10 a.m. at Los Angeles City Hall at 200 N. Spring Street, LA,
    90012 – Room 340. The public entrance to City Hall is on the Main Street
    side of the building. There is a metal detector at the security entrance
    and ID is required to get a visitor’s badge. The officer that takes ID
    will ask where you are going and you tell them ‘Council Chambers.’ There
    are many bus routes through Downtown Civil Center including the Metro Red
    Line. There is also plenty of parking, for a fee.
     
    Patients who wish to speak before the Council can do so during general
    public comment for 2 minutes on Tuesday and Wednesday. To learn more
    about participating in ‘public comment’ see the section ‘What Can
    Patients/Advocates Do To Stop The LA Ban? *’ here:
    http://panorg.blogspot.com/2012/06/patients-want-to-stop-ban-on-las.html
    and http://ag.ca.gov/publications/2003_Intro_BrownAct.pdf
     
    If agendized on Friday, medical marijuana cannot be addressed during
    general public comment. Comments may be taken while the item is being
    heard. Council can waive the comment period because of prior hearings.
    However, because there will be speaker cards AND this agenda item will
    ALSO have a CLOSED SESSION, Council is likely to allow public comment but
    time may be cut to a minute or less.
     
    Patients can also contact their council member directly:
    http://lacity.org/YourGovernment/CityCouncil/index.htm. You can learn who
    your council member is by typing your street address at ‘Neighborhood
    Resources’ here: http://lacity.org/index.htm
     
    La Brea Collective has organized Patient Speak-out events for ALL City
    Council meetings this week. They are hosting patients at 8:30 a.m. in
    their lounge for refreshments, compassion and a caravan to City Hall.
    Last Friday’s event was well attended. Other collectives may also be
    sponsoring similar events. La Brea Collective is located at 5057 W. Pico
    Blvd., and easily accessible by multiple bus lines. Bring appropriate
    patient documentation if you are a new member.
     
    Please watch for an email later this evening from
    s..[email protected] There is a lot of movement and action
    taking place with AB 2312 at this time. Urgent and very time sensitive
    action is needed. You will learn more from the above email address. If
    you do not receive a notice about AB 2312 and want to get updates, please
    send the subject line ‘subscribe’ to the above email address.
     
    You can refer to
    http://panorg.blogspot.com/2012/05/how-ab-2312-impedes-safe-affordable.html
    regarding the bill.
     
    Many thanks.
     
     
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Degé Coutee
    Executive & Program Director
    Patient Advocacy Network
     
    @PAN4Compassion
    www.CannabisSavesLives.org
    (323) 334-5282
     
    PAN is a charitable 501(c)(3) organization
     
    ** Please make a donation at www.CannabisSavesLives.org **
     
     
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jun 17 08:50PM -0700  

    Language is important. Not being considered uptight and a stick in the mud is also important. Speaking a language others understand is also important. 
     
    On top of Mt. Well-To-Do they might all use the term cannabis, or even know what that means. Down here in the hood, if you say cannabis to some folks they look at you like you just spoke German at them. 
     
    If you want people to join you in the fight, easily identifying the subject of said fight is the first battle you may want to think about overcoming….Hard to get the Native's to think you are their God if they cannot understand what you are saying to them…..
     
    Depends on the audience, really…but more so, it is personal choice and freedom to express ourselves in our native language. Super that you think everyone should say this one word, but that is not the reality of your very diverse society, Dr. Dave. I think some people should say no words at all, but I do not get to make that decision for others, now do I? People can feel free to say what they please, and use what ever terminology they please.
     
    I am going to smoke weed. You can go inhale cannabis puffs from your burning plant substance, or whatever it is you do over there…..
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    Author of Medical Marijuana 101
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
    http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
    http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
     
    ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***
     
     
    ________________________________
    From: Dr. David Bearman <s..[email protected]>
    Cc: Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]>
    Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:13 PM

     
    language is important.
    if you don't think so you miss the whole point of the prohibitionists.It should be just cannabis but in the hands of the misinformed and the powerful it is portrayed as a tool of the devil.
    David Bearman

     

 

    Michael Levinsohn <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 08:14AM -0700  

    An old debating rule holds that whoever cites Hitler or the Nazis first loses. A close second is comparing all insults to racism.
     
    In the case of cannabis, it has more nicknames than anything except money and people's private parts, which gives you perspective on people's priorities. "Marijuana" is a term intended to highlight a certain ethnic reference, which unfortunately is the basis of much of the stigma against it.
     
    Why are "Irish Drunks" seen as gregarious, harmless, pugnacious heroes, and cannabis users seen as ethnic, lazy, mindless losers? To answer that question is to explain why liquor is legal and cannabis is not.
     
    Sent from my iPhone
     

     

 

    Dennis Hinze <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 04:18PM -0700  

    Save Cannabis ~
        Language is important. So how about calling everything what it is.? The plant is cannabis hemp. The part that gets you high, specifically the female buds, has been called marijuana for so long that the term is used to describe the  medicine — medical marijuana. Trying to clean up the negative connotation of "marijuana" by changing it to "cannabis" just confuses the issue. Different extracts and preparations may be referred to as cannabis medicinals, but it must be understood that while all marijuana is cannabis hemp, not all cannabis hemp is marijuana. ~ Dennis 
     
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    "Jonathan Hughes" <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 02:26PM  

    Lanette,
     
    How did you know that the union was not there? Is it because you did not see a UFCW banner/or jacket? When I attend rallies and meetings, I do not always have a union logo on or announce that "The Union Is Here" nor do I think we should. The Union is here to assist the cannabis community and I believe most know how to get a hold of us if they need help. Also, maybe if more medcal cannabis facilities were organized, we would see a bigger union presences. If you want more information please feel free to contact the UFCW.
     
    Jonathan Hughes
    UFCW Local 5
    240 South Market St
    San Jose, CA
    Office
    1(phone#-removed) ex.5629
    Direct Line
    (phone#-removed)
     
     
     
     

    Jonathan Hughes
    UFCW Local 5
    240 South Market St
    San Jose, CA
    Office
    1(phone#-removed) ex.5629
    Direct Line
    (phone#-removed)

     

    Mendocino Medical Marijuana Advisory Board <s..[email protected]> Jun 16 01:11PM -0700  

    Did you mean "Yes on 215, No on AB2312?"
     
    Tom Davenport
    web admin – Mendocino Medical Marijuana Advisory Board
     
    On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:18 AM, rose jeri wrote:
     

     

    GOCCA <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 01:13PM -0700  

    Hello OC Collectives and Patients,
     
     
    The next Greater Orange County Collective Alliance meeting of 2012 will be
    Wednesday, June 27 at 8 PM.
     
     
    *Meeting Location: *Marriott Suites
     
    Harbor Room
     
    12015 Harbor Blvd.
    Garden Grove, 92840
     
     
    *Meeting Coordinator: *Dee(phone#-removed)
     
     
     
    Please join us in protecting and educating our patients and community about
    medical cannabis!
     
     
     
     

    *Representative*
    Greater Orange County Collectives Alliance (GOCCA)
    2166 W. Broadway, #100
    Anaheim, CA 92804
    (phone#-removed)
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    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 01:14PM -0700  

    if you need the direct email of the director of comittee who will be
    receving our concerns and prepareing them for the comittee members?
    Please contact me directly. Stay postive and solution based . Express
    concerns regarding comunity based providers being wiped off map by big
    box pot . With true intelligence not conspiracy . I will be expressing
    support for the union involved and hoping that they can work with
    comunity based providers and grower on amendments that are caring.
    Make sure if you did support lenos simple and clarifying placeholder
    bill to mention that and why . Offer facts regarding the attempts at
    monopoly not conjecture or heresay that doesnt help and sorry but it
    is reality that many small collectives would be wiped off map and
    there no checks and balances of the proposed board to govern our
    entire comunity
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

 

 

 

    lynnette shaw <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 09:37AM -0700  

    This what what we are looking at, Federal invasions and 10 years to life sentences. Wake up , people! Support AB2312 and amend the flaws rather than spend your life in jail.
     
    – Lynnette ; )
     
    — On Mon, 6/18/12, Brett Stone <s..[email protected]> wrote:
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Pleas expected to be entered in pot case
     
     
    Staff report
     
    Posted:   06/18/2012 09:09:05 AM PDT
     
    http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_20882487/pleas-expected-be-entered-pot-case
     
     
    The president of a medical marijuana dispensary with sites in Upland, Colton and Moreno Valley and five others will enter their pleas this morning on drug-trafficking charges in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles.
     
    A crowd of supporters gathered in front of the courthouse earlier this morning.
     
    The six defendants include the operators of the Inland Empire chain of marijuana clinics and others associated with an Ontario warehouse that cultivated marijuana for the stores.
     
    According to an indictment released Thursday, the six defendants in the case are charged in a conspiracy to manufacture and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana. The indictment also charges all the defendants with possession with intent to distribute marijuana. The two charges each carry a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years in federal prison and a maximum sentence of life in prison.
     
    G3 co-founder John Leslie Nuckolls II, 31, of Rialto; Paul Neumann Brownbridge, 29, of Upland, who worked in the Ontario warehouse; and Richard Irwin Kirchnavy, 45, of Rancho Cucamonga, who also worked at the warehouse, were released on bail on Thursday.
     
    Rancho Cucamonga residents Aaron Sandusky, 41, president of G3 Holistic, and Keith Alan Sandusky, 44, remained in custody over the weekend.
     
    The bond for Brandon Anton Gustafson, 30, of Yucaipa, who worked at an Ontario warehouse associated with G3, was set at $100,000. Gustafson was expected to be bailed out Friday night.
     
     
    http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_20882487/pleas-expected-be-entered-pot-case
     

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    Fred Gardner <s..[email protected]> Jun 18 01:49AM -0700  

    I predict he's going to have a big impact and suggest a line for him in a recent Anderson Valley Advertiser column:
     
    http://theava.com/archives/15926
     
    Hope to do the show after the new O'S comes out.
     
    What's your mailing address?
     
    Fred
     
     
    On Jun 17, 2012, at 12:42 PM, LANNYSWERDLOW wrote:
     

     

 

 

    Angela Bacca <s..[email protected]> Jun 17 09:05PM -0700  

    Mike,
     
    I am very sorry to hear that, rogue DAs and policing for profit are the
    biggest obstacles facing marijuana law reform today. Unfortunately Green
    Aid is a very small organization and only has the capacity to take one-two
    cases at a time. We have two cases currently.
     
    As the primary main case manager I would not feel ok taking this case when
    I personally couldn't put an adequate amount of time into promoting it. I
    have however forwarded and copied this message to many other activists
    nationally to put out the call for help/recommendations to activists and
    lawyers in Nevada who can help.
     
    Thank you for thinking to contact us,
     
    Angela Bacca
    Media Coordinator
    Green Aid: The Medical Marijuana Legal Defense and Education Fund
    www.green-aid.com
     
     

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