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August 22, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 9 Messages in 5 Topics

    Jacob Secret <s..[email protected]> Aug 21 08:45PM -0700  

    Salutations.
     
    Quick food for thought.
     
    The first sentence in 215 states that the Proposition is intended to legally allow patients in CA to "use and obtain" medical grade cannabis.
     
    How can a patient "obtain" cannabis legally without an outlet todo so??
     
    Implying that a recently diagnosed cancer patient must contribute to a grow operation so that they may "obtain" cannabis 3+ months down the road to alleviate the detrimental symptoms of cancer and the ill side-effects of the prescription drugs they are required to use is inhumane and albeit ignorant.
     
    If a "dispensary" is not allowed by law then why does Senate Bill 420 specificly use the word despensary 5 times at the the end of the bill?
     
    Negating and manipulating Prop. 215s spirit and language by the courts is deplorable but doesn't the word "dispensary" in S.B. 420 at least "open the scope" of 215, thus solidifying the legitimacy of them?
     
    Final thought for the moment.
     
    The federal government has a medical cannabis program which sends the last 4 remaining patients 7-9 pounds annually (300 cannabis sticks every 25 days).
     
    The federal government had an intellectual body conclude that those are the sufficient amounts of cannabis required to treat their suffering patients on an annual basis.
     
    Since many patients only have the resources to grow outdoors, shouldn't they be legally entitled to growing and having in their possession a years worth of medication thus ensuring enough medicine until the following years harvest?
     
    Ingesting cannabis (e.g. cookies, pies, chocolate) warrants even more of the medication.
     
    Success is our destiny.
     
    Jonathan Lustig
    Social Crusader

     

 

 

    Lee Berger <s..[email protected]> Aug 22 10:55AM -0700  

    some of us in Oregon came up with this proposal which we understood to
    be consistent with what Sensible Washington and Sensible California were
    working on. We collected some signatures, but not enough to get a
    ballot title to collect signatures to put it on the ballot.
     
    Still in all, many of us are persuaded that this (repealing prohibitions
    against cultivation and possession and requring the legislature to
    regulate distribution) is the way to go.
     
    Lee Berger, Portland
     
    On 8/22/2012 10:37 AM, Lynnette wrote:

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Aug 22 08:51AM -0700  

    The CHOOM will rise again….
    Posted by Mickey Martin on August 22nd, 2012
    A lot of people, including myself, are down on Obama because of his failures to protect medical cannabis, his kill list, and a number of other issues that progressives like myself find very disappointing. The fact is that Barrack Obama had a lot of “very high” expectations for his Presidency, and has not been able to fulfill the hopes and dreams of every progressive and liberal (or conservative for that matter). I truly love how people in this Country believe that the President is capable of changing, or responsible for, every issue we face as a nation and a planet. I’ll be damned if one guy cannot fix the second worst economy in our history, deal with two wars he did not start, end global warming, end the drug war, advance gay rights, solve immigration, and solve every other major problem facing us with a congress bent on blocking EVERY effort pur forth by himself in 44 months. I mean really…what the fuck did this guy think we hired him for
    anyways?
    But what is the other option, at this point? Big Mitt Romney? That seems to be what some advocates are suggesting; that since we are so upset that Obama has failed to call of the dogs at the DOJ we should somehow be okay with “surviving a Romney Presidency.” You bumped your fucking head if that is your true feelings.
    What kind of fucking loser would turn over appointing the next probably at least two Supreme Court justices up to a prick like Romney? I mean seriously….have you people ever heard of the word “personhood?” Do you have any idea of how disastrous a Romney presidency would be to not just our movement, not even just our Nation, but the entire fucking planet? You have got to be shitting me that you believe anywhere deep in your heart that that is truly even a fucking option. If so, you are the fucking enemy….not Obama.
    Obama is an asshole politician. A person who thinks Mitt Romney is no worse than Obama is a fucking loser with their head so far up their own personal ass of hatred that they have lost all connection with reality. Get a grip. Romney is not an option.
    I had hoped by now, as the end of August nears, that Gary Johnson would have made a stronger push; or that the other two assholes tearing one another down would push disgruntled voters his way. It has not happened. I have not heard much from Johnson, and I run in circles of Johnson supporters. The man has not yet captured the hearts and minds of a nation…not even 15% of them.
    So it is hard to see his path to victory if he does not have a miracle happen by the debates. I am still hopeful for him, and will stil likely give him a vote here in Cali, but at some point you have got to call a longshot a longshot and face reality. The reality is, barring a miracle, we are looking at a two man race between Obama and Romney….I will take Obama. It is not even close. I love weed, and am also saddened Obama has not done more; but there are a million other reasons that Romney would be a far larger disaster as President and weed is only one of them. Choom on…
    I also think THE CHOOM WILL RISE AGAIN. I think Obama will smoke weed again. The stories from his youth of the Choom Gang are far too powerful and were an extremely formative part of his growing up. I mean the man thanked the Choom Gang and his dealer Ray in his yearbook, and not his own mamma. The man was a staunch weedhead. The “interceptor” and “roof hitter” will be back in the circle one day.
    It is hard for us folks on the ground to understand why he doesn’t just make weed legal tomorrow, as if there were no political consequences for him to worry about. It is easy for us to find disdain for the man, and forget about the 40 years of evil that have preceded him, and the huge lobbying effort against cannabis that happens daily by private prisons, law enforcement lobbies, big pharma, big booze, and the rest of the drug warrior profiteers. Is that an excuse for not doing more? No…that is just a fucking political reality.
    But just as Obama has stood up for gay rights and immigration when the time was politically prudent, I also believe that in a second term he will work to make weed legal. At least I hope. I am 100% sure that Mitt Romney will not. I do think a light-skinned brother from Hawaii who was the leader of the Choom Gang might pull it off if the stars align and the call for legalization continues to grow. Only time will tell…I still think there could be an October surprise.
    You heard it here first…if the three legalization efforts are polling to win in October, do not be surprised to see a rescheduling happen. Why? To steal the thunder and try to placate the masses. Similar to the decriminalization bill passed by Schwarzenegger right when Prop. 19 was polling at 55%. It might be easier to give a little, than to lose the battle completely. At least that would likely be the strategy of the big business lobbying groups actually running the show.
    But in my reality I have to be pragmatic…..the reality is that we are likely choosing between Romney and Obama in this godforsaken election. Romney is a disaster. Obama is a closet weedhead who is dancing the political dance right now,  but who will have much more freedom in a second term with no future elections to lose. If weed is going to be legalized in the next 4 years, it will be Obama, not Romney, that will make it happen.
    So it is easy to be mad and want to punish Obama. But unless you have a realistic and viable alternative, all you are really doing is attacking our best REAL shot at having a President that might want to actually see the Choom rise again so that he can smoke a fat one after he retires at age 55. You know he wants to get his Choom on….why do you think he could never stop smoking cigarettes? The man is a smoker….you know he is in the Oval office today thinking “I wonder what a dab feels like. I bet it is awesome…”
    #SummerOfBuds
     
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    Author of Medical Marijuana 101
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
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    ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Aug 22 12:40AM -0700  

    http://www.denverpost.com/carroll/ci_21366054/warped-images-our-cannabis-industry

     

    Donna Lambert <s..[email protected]> Aug 21 11:22PM -0700  

    Okay.  Let's ask for clarification.
    Categorically okay to "grow for adult use".  Does that mean a limited plant number?  5 plants as in prop 19?
     
    Or will judge Gray make a statement that he fully supports prop 215 and our rights to grow as we DECIDE how much we need.
     
    Because what he said to me was that he believes the govt should control and regulate cultivation.
     
    What did he mean?  Did he mean warehouses full designed for commercial distribution?  Or did he mean 50 plants in someones garage?
     
    B.c – I personally like to take about 30 or more clones, for which I pick the best ones and give a couple to other patients, then I like to plant about a third more than I will finally bud, then I keep the fasted and give those others (which are still great) away to patients who want to grow, so my bud room might have 15 plants but if I had to worry about a raid and their were plant limits that would be
     
    About 60 plants counting the clones.  That is b/c I believe that doing the movement more good means getting more patients growing and I believe it is good for sick people to watch something grow (life).
     
    This is why prop 19 was ABSURD.  (Yes, I did vote for it, but mainly bc I knew it would be struck down by the FEDS but would keep the issue in the media, not bc I thought it was anything more than a ruthless power grab designed to actually kill prop 215 and take over the marijuana market)
     
    Also for any narcs reading this, and you know who you are best and vich, I AM NOT CURRENTLY GROWING AT MY HOUSE.  So dont bother with your fake setups and calls to the DA – YES, PEOPLE SD ASA ARE NARCS
     
     
    Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 5:59 PM
     
    Hi Starchild,
       I could get more into what the "Narc Squad" provision actually would have done if it hadn't been removed from RMLW; but not now.  But if you could see how it could be misinterpeted, imagien what the California Chiefs of Police would have done with it! Disastrous!  (Did you know that I've sued the County of San Bernardino over its anti-cultivation ordinance, in a CEQA lawsuit, and that I named the California Chiefs of Police Association as the "Real Party in Interest in such lawsuit, since it was that association and its attorney that promulgated the model ordinacne on which the County's ordinance was based, and on which many cities and counties have been basing their anti-cannabis ordinances?  I'm still waiting for a ruling in the CEQA case; it should be out in September.)
       THANK YOU!!!! for asking Judge Gray about his position on individuals growing cannabis as I suggested.  His statement: "I categorically support an adult's right to grow cannabis for personal use," is good.  But now also please ask him: Do you support such right without taxation and regulation?  Without a license from the government?  Because if he doesn't, then my concern about people being taxed and regulated out of the ability to grow remains true.  Or what it it's like gun control laws: if you're a convicted felon, you won't be able to get a license to grow?
        Remember, marijuana was not made illegal initially — the Stamp Tax Act just made it impossible, even for the old herb companies, like Eli Lilly, to afford to grow and sell it, or for consumers to buy it.  The power to tax is the power to destroy; so, too, teh pwoer to license is the power to destroy.
        It was not that long ago that Judge Gray told someone I know that he did not support Californians' right to grow cannabis for themselves.  I'm going to ask her to contact you to tell you this yourself. 
       In the meantime, did Judge Gray send you an e-mail with his view that he supports adults' right to grow?  If so, please, please send me a copy!  Thanks!!!
     
     
    >Cc: "LNC Discussion List" <s..[email protected]>, s..[email protected], "LP Radical Caucus" <s..[email protected]>
    >Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 4:21 PM
     
    >Letitia,    I totally agree with you that anyone should be able to legally grow any plant without government interference, so long as they are not initiating force or fraud; like you I did not vote for California' sProposition 19 because it was not pro-freedom enough. I just asked Jim Gray about his position on individuals growing cannabis as you suggested, and he said in response "I categorically support an adult's right to grow cannabis for personal use."    I don't know whether he may have held a different view on this in the past, or whether his comments you refer to may have been misunderstood. Either seems possible; I believe you completely misstate the nature of the withdrawn part of the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine initiative that you call a "Narc Squad" provision. That provision may have been ill-advised precisely due to its potential for being misconstrued (the reason I believe it was removed), but when I read the provision's language,
    it seemed clear to me that its intent was to provide *more* legal cover for cannabis growers and sellers by allowing people within the cannabis community to be deputized in order to have some state-level law enforcement protection against federal meddling.     Implicitly accusing RMLW's backers like Steve Kubby and Jim Gray, who have given so much to the cannabis movement (and Steve owing his life to medical cannabis!) of wanting to narc out cannabis growers/distributors is beyond the pale, and I strongly urge you to avoid such divisive, unsubstantiated, and uncalled-for language.     Jim Gray may not be as radically libertarian as I prefer — few candidates are — but I believe his intentions are good, and he has impressed me as sincerely committed not to the left or the right but to a libertarian approach encompassing significant reforms on both economic freedom and civil liberties. I love Ron Paul, but he has not always spoken out as strongly
    on the Drug War as would be ideal either, and more to the point right now, he has not indicated that he plans to pursue his presidential campaign beyond the upcoming Republican national convention. Is there any other presidential ticket on November ballots this year that is as pro-freedom as that of Gary Johnson and Jim Gray? I certainly don't know of any. If you do, please share that information with us ASAP.    In the meantime, let's make Jim Gray's statement that "I categorically support an adult's right to grow cannabis for personal use" public, as you suggest. Please spread it around to the places where you post.Love & Liberty,                                 ((( starchild )))On Aug 21, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Letitia Pepper wrote:> Hi Starchild,>     As you know, I am a big proponent of cannabis.  I think every person should be able to grow any plant without any interference by anyone, particularly the government.  (I've got
    three Ron Paul bumperstickers on my car — still.)>     But because I've been an attorney for 30 years, and because I've worked with both state and federal law, and because I understand the intersection of such laws, I've opposed all state-level efforts to "legalize marijuana!" because they are really just tricks to change Prop. 215, California's foundational medical marijuana laws, and officially turn over cannabis over to Big Government and Big Corporations.  It will be "legal" for whoever has the permits and pays the big taxes to grow cannabis — and no one else will be allowed to do so — mark my words.>      Based on my interactions with Judge Gray, writing a book on the stupidity of the drug war doesn't make him the champion we'd all like to see in office.  He has told people (one of whom is being bcc'd with this e-mail) that he doesn't think individuals should be allowed to grow cannabis.  He also was a proponent of "Regulate Marijuana
    Like Wine," (RMLW) another of the Trojan Horse initiatives that like Prop. 19 would have destroyed the rights we now have as individuals, and also endorsed Prop. 19.  >        (RMLW, by the way, was the initiative that Steve Kubby got the Libertarians to endorse, and AFTER getting such endorsement, changed to add a "Narc Squad" provision, which he then removed after I and some other people caught the change.)>        So, all you libertarians — get Judge Gray out in public and make him say, PUBLICLY,  what he really believes about whether individuals should be allowed to grow and use cannabis without government interference.>        I'm not kidding.  Gray is just another politician, pandering for votes from us individuals, but undoubtedly getting money from special interests (no doubt including Big Pharma and Monsanto).> > — On Tue, 8/21/12, Starchild <s..[email protected]> wrote:> > From: Starchild <s..[email protected]>>
    Subject: [GrassrootsLibertarians] Fwd: Judge Jim Gray Speaks to Enthusiastic Crowds at Hempfest in Seattle> To: "LNC Discussion List" <s..[email protected]>, s..[email protected], "Grassroots Libertarians Caucus" <s..[email protected]>, "LP Radical Caucus" <s..[email protected]>> Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2012, 1:42 PM> >     Both Libertarian Party VP candidate Jim Gray and prominent LP member Steve Kubby spoke again at this event in Seattle. According to this article — http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2012/08/17/Seattle-Hempfest-2012-Worlds-Largest-Pot-Protestival-Starts-Today — this year's Hempfest drew an estimated 300,000 people. Marijuana culture is huge and it's not going away! I'm delighted that the LP, the party of letting people put what they want into their own bodies, was so well represented. Thanks also to Michael Pickens for the blog post below on Judge Gray's talk!> > Love & Liberty,>         
                            ((( starchild )))> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee> > > Begin forwarded message:> >> From: Steve Kubby <s..[email protected]>>> Date: August 21, 2012 2:58:05 AM PDT>> Subject: Judge Jim Gray Speaks to Enthusiastic Crowds at Hempfest in Seattle>> >> Judge Jim Gray Speaks to Enthusiastic Crowds at Hempfest in Seattle>> Posted by C. Michael Pickens on Monday, August 20th, 2012 in Blog>> http://www.libertarianleadership.org/2012/08/20/judge-jim-gray-speaks-to-enthusiastic-crowds-at-hempfest-in-seattle/>> >> <2012-08-18_13-37-07_224-300×169.jpg>>> Libertarian Vice-Presidential Candidate, Judge Jim Gray spoke twice at this year’s Seattle Hempfest. First time at the, “Legalize it! Movie Premier Preview & Panel: Behind the Scenes of Prop. 19” and the second time on the Main Stage.>>  >> “Honestly, I never in my life thought I would be in a place like this and I am among friends. It’s amazing,
    some of the very best people I have met in my life, I have met as a result of drug policy reform, and that means you” Followed by loud shouts and a roaring applause.>>  >> Judge Gray continued to talk of his experience as a former prosecutor, drug warrior, and Judge.>>  >> “Back in 1992, I did something very unusual for a sitting trial court judge, I held a press conference announcing to the world…what we are doing with regards to drug policy is simply not working, it’s failing, we must repeal drug prohibition.”>>  >> The leadership that Judge Jim Gray has shown from 1992 until today brings many people hope. People who have family and friends locked in cages for non-violent victimless crimes, those who are locked in cages for victimless crimes, and the tax payers who are tired of paying for and supporting a failed social policy.>>  >> <IMG9502071-300×300.jpeg>Judge Jim Gray does not use marijuana, but he respects and defends the natural
    rights of someone else to use marijuana. Judge Jim Gray does not have a dog in this fight, yet he still fights for the rights of others. This is the leadership that exudes from the Libertarian Presidential ticket right now.>>  >> Judge Jim Gray went on to say, “If we are going to get our country back, if we are going to bring back prosperity, equal opportunity, and freedom to the United States of America, your only choice for President this November is Governor Gary Johnson”>>  >> Needless to say, Judge Jim Gray and the Gary Johnson Campaign, with support from the Libertarian Party of Washington’s booth, was a hit at this year’s Hempfest.>>  >> The Johnson/Gray Presidential ticket was verbally endorsed on stage by many other speakers at Hempfest including but not limited to:>>  >> Julia Rose, The Curator of the Peter McWilliams Online Museum>> Steve Kubby, RegualteMarijuana 2014 Chief Officer and Campaign Manager>> Jodie Emery, Wife of
    “Prince of Pot” Marc Emery; Cannabis Culture Headquarters & Magazine, Director>> Stephen Collett, California Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Initiative, Treasurer>> Dr. David Bearman, M.D.  American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine, Vice President & Board Member; ASA, Board; Patients Out of Time, Advisory Board Member; Author ‘Demons, Discrimination and Dollars: A Brief History of the Origins of American Drug Laws’>> Dan Katzir, “Legalize It!” the movie, Director>> Dan Rush, United Food and Commercial Workers International Union- Director, National Medical Cannabis and Hemp Division>> Ravit Marcus, “Legalize It!” the movie, Producer>>  >> C. Michael Pickens is the Author of the book, “Libertarian Leadership: Planting the Seed for a Libertarian Future” and the Washington State Campaign Director for the Gary Johnson Campaign.> ————————————Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:   
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    Bruce Margolin <s..[email protected]> Aug 21 10:44PM -0700  

    The Los Angeles city ban against dispensaries will not stand. The courts struck down the bands in Long Beach and Riverside recently.
    Keep the faith,
    Bruce Margolin Atty one 800 420 – LA WS.
    Sent from my iPhone

     

April 22, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 7 Messages in 6 Topics

 

    "Bill McPike" <s..[email protected]> Apr 20 11:35PM -0700  

    Just got home from Butte Co, Oroville.
     

     
    Jury came in just before 5 pm today &
     
    Found defendants – Not Guilty of 4
     
    MJ counts and 2 weapon enhancements.
     

     
    My client had no CUA defense, and we
     
    Put on no witnesses. I explained the DA
     
    Failed to prove his case so we didn't
     
    Need to offer any defense. The other
     
    Defendant had a 215 Rx. He too was
     
    Found not guilty. Half the jurors met
     
    w/DDA Jeff Greeson and explained that
     
    he failed to prove his case. It was all
     
    speculation, drama, w/pictures of AK-47s,
     
    actual bullets, etc.
     

     
    Guns being returned. 5 days of cop time,
     
    Court time, was all a waste of time, plus
     
    The raid time, jail time, etc.
     

     
    99 outdoor plants.
     

     
    Great way to end 420!
     

     
    Bill McPike, Attorney at Law

     

    Lee Berger <s..[email protected]> Apr 21 10:27AM -0700  

    Congrats Bill!!
     
    Lee Berger, Portland, OR
     
    On 4/20/2012 11:35 PM, Bill McPike wrote:

     

 

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Apr 21 03:15AM -0700  

    Ugh. Pls post and share . Beautiful at golden gate park today…
     
     
    Greetings Colleagues -
     
    While providing court support this morning, I began getting messages that
    raids were taking place in Woodland Hills. The only confirmed raid I have
    is Topanga Caregivers on Topanga Canyon Blvd. If you know of others,
    please let me know.
     
    The raid on Topanga Caregivers was conducted by LAPD; the warrant is from
    LA Co. Three staff members are still in custody. As a result of the
    arrests it is unknown if the collective will reopen. Although the warrant
    specifies electronics, records and such, it was pretty much a smash and
    grab raid except for the arrests. We do not yet know with what the staff
    is being charged. (I was with other staff members with afternoon to
    assess the damage and view the search warrant.)
     
    Topanga Caregivers has a very large patient membership (thanks to the
    systematic closure of all the collectives in the Devonshire division) and
    holds a patient appreciation day on the 20th of every month. Of course,
    the appreciation day on April 20th is exceptionally special with events in
    their parking lot, etc. It appears the LAPD knew this would a be busy day
    for TCG and took advantage of an opportunity to steal money and medicine
    from the patients.
     
    TCG has openly worked with city officials and members of Councilmember
    Zine's staff to maintain and demonstrate compliance. The actions by LAPD
    today appear opportunistic and vindictive.
     
    Will report more as I know more…
     
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Degé Coutee
    Executive & Program Director
    Patient Advocacy Network
     
    @PAN4Compassion
    www.CannabisSavesLives.org
    (323) 334-5282
     
    PAN is a charitable 501(c)(3) organization
     
     
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

April 14, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 25 Messages in 6 Topics

 

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 08:28AM -0700  

    So I saw this piece in the NYT and was quite taken back by St. Pierre's statements. He stated: “The medical marijuana industry is driven by profit,” said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, which supports medical marijuana legalization. “It’s not driven by compassion anymore. It is driven by the need to make money.”
     
    This is somewhat disturbing coupled with recent appeasement made for Obama's crackdown in this Drug War Rant by Peter Guither, where he questions St. Pierre, stating: "It appears, unfortunately, that Allen is speaking as a supporter of candidate Obama and/or the Democratic Party, rather than in his role as executive director of NORML.
    If Allen is reading this, I’d love to hear what he was thinking."
    Source: http://www.drugwarrant.com/2012/04/failing-to-understand-political-capital/
     
    I agree. What is he thinking?
    SMOKELESS IN SEATTLE by Dominic Holden
    Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/13/opinion/smokeless-in-seattle.html
    IT was January of 1998 when a friend and I drove to a basement in South Seattle to set up a pot garden. We were terrified. If a police officer pulled us over, how would we explain these bags of rapid-bloom fertilizer — in winter?
    Still, we had to go. A friend was suffering from the late stages of a degenerative muscular disease. He spent all day strapped into something that looked like a hospital bed crossed with an easel. Smoking pot helped ease his pain; after his wife held joints to his lips, he would eat soup. He would watch TV. He’d laugh.
    Growing pot was illegal at the time, but stories like ours, and a strong public campaign, persuaded 59 percent of Washington State voters to legalize medical marijuana that fall. In the 14 years since, an entire industry has emerged to serve incapacitated patients like my friend, who couldn’t grow pot himself. Doctors write authorizations, dispensaries sell the stuff, trade magazines flourish.
    In the eyes of most opponents and many supporters of easing pot laws, medical marijuana is supposed to be a slippery slope to full legalization. But in Washington, the opposite is happening: a momentous initiative to legalize marijuana for all adults, which will be on the ballot this fall, is being opposed by the medical marijuana industry that the previous initiative created.
    Initiative 502, as the measure is known, would allow adults 21 and older to possess up to an ounce of marijuana without penalty. The state would issue licenses to marijuana farmers, distributors and even stores, which could then sell pot over the counter like beer.
    The plan, supported by the likes of John McKay, a former federal attorney, and Rick Steves, the travel writer, is about more than stoners’ rights: legalizing and regulating the pot market would wrest profits from murderous foreign cartels while helping the beleaguered state budget. Officials recently estimated the measure could generate up to $606 million in tax revenue in the first year.
    Every recent poll except one has shown most Washington voters are now ready to pass the initiative. But support has slipped since last fall, down to only 51 percent, according to SurveyUSA. The flagging enthusiasm correlates with the escalating effort to stop the initiative.
    In late February, Dr. Gil Mobley, a physician with a local clinic providing medical-marijuana authorizations, began a campaign called No on I-502, a new name for a group that, before, called itself Patients Against I-502. It anticipates donations from lawyers and doctors, said its treasurer, Anthony Martinelli, and pot dispensaries may also finance a fall volley of television commercials.
    The campaign claims that a provision in Initiative 502 would penalize medical marijuana users who drive with active THC, the psychoactive compound in marijuana, in their blood, even a day or a week after the last time they got high. (Any driver who exceeds a limit of five nanograms of THC per milliliter of blood would be automatically guilty of driving under the influence.) They also complain that the law would have zero tolerance for drivers under 21 years old with active THC in their blood. Mr. Martinelli goes so far as to claim that the measure “will take away driving for all cannabis users.”
    The anti-502 effort has also played on civil liberties fears. A glossy medical-marijuana magazine, Dope, warned recently that patients would be required to apply for licenses if they wanted to grow cannabis and that the Drug Enforcement Administration could then access their names.
    This type of opposition isn’t uncharted political territory: In 2010, a group of medical marijuana dispensaries banded together to help narrowly defeat a legalization initiative in California.
    What’s the threat? A legal, regulated market for all consumers — not just sick people — could negate demand for a niche medical pot industry altogether.
    “The medical marijuana industry is driven by profit,” said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, which supports medical marijuana legalization. “It’s not driven by compassion anymore. It is driven by the need to make money.”
    What’s more, the opposition doesn’t even have a compelling case. I haven’t found a single scientific study showing that even the heaviest of pot users would exceed the five-nanogram cutoff after 24 hours. And the civil liberties attacks are simply dishonest. The rules would remain the same as they currently are for medical marijuana — no registration requirements and no database.
    For their part, I-502’s critics insist that they have no financial motivation and that they support legalization, just not this initiative and its D.U.I. regulations. But it’s more than a little strange to defend the status quo, in which nearly 10,000 people are arrested in Washington for possession each year, on civil liberties grounds. And it’s not as if voters would accept a law that didn’t include restrictions on smoking and driving.
    Washington State has a chance this fall to siphon profits from cartels while stopping senseless arrests, or it can let the status quo prevail. It’s a simple choice, particularly given that concerns from the medical marijuana industry are, at best, red herrings.Dominic Holden is the news editor of The Stranger, a weekly newspaper in Seattle.
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
    http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
    http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
     
     
    ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

     

 

    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 04:40PM -0400  

    THe American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine was founded in 2007 and officially announced our organization i8n 2009. We were formed at least in part because of our disgust with those physicians practicing minimalist medicine in cannabis recommendation miles. This is just plain greed. TRhe avctions of these unscrupul;ous doctors ubndermines the proven scientific legitimacy of the medicinal value of cannabis. It provides ammo to our enemies and is antithetical to both drug policy reform and the medicinal value of cannabis.
    Please keep our organization in mind on any effort tp isolate the greedy and unprincip0led in the industry.
    If any one wantsa to contribute just nail your check to AACM 7394 Calle Real,Goleta .Ca 93117.
    We need a coalition of pricipled entities and there are several out there.
    peace
    Dr. Dave

     

 

    Lee Berger <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 11:35AM -0700  

    Not in Oregon
    Not in Colorado
    Not in the two states with legalization initiatives which don't put
    patients at risk
     
    Lee B., Portland
     
    On 4/14/2012 10:07 AM, debby goldsberry wrote:

     

    LANNYSWERDLOW <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 11:57AM -0700  

    I am totally shocked that anyone would even think of making a profit off medical cannabis. It is an immoral and inhumane position. The medical cannabis industry should follow the example set by the entire American health care industry whose compassion and concern for the health of our nation's citizens is vividly demonstrated by their not-for-profit hospitals, doctor's offices and pharmaceutical companies. The medical cannabis industry needs to follow their example and realize that these health providers are so magnanimous in their compassionate concerns that they employ legions of lobbyists to go to our nation's capital and state legislatures to convince our elected officials to pass all kinds of laws and tax codes that will allow them to continue to provide these services at a cost that people can afford.
     
    Why in the world should anyone expect the medical cannabis industry to be any different than every other segment of our nation's health care industrial complex. Making a profit is what this country is all about from top to bottom and for some reason, so many “movement” people profess to be “shocked – yes shocked” by the fact the medical cannabis providers want to make a profit.
     
    Cannabis makes people feel good but it does not make them crazy so I am thoroughly puzzled by all this outrage over medical cannabis providers wanting to make a profit.
     
    That being said, any medical cannabis facility that works against or even stands passively by and does nothing to help out-and-out legalize marijuana needs to start smoking more pot as pot helps the user develop a more rational perspective of the world around them.
     
    With legalization will come a renaissance of entrepreneurial opportunities for large and small marijuana businesses that will dwarf the meager pickings of the collectives struggling to exist in the wild-west atmosphere created by cities refusing to regulate them like any other business.
     
    Those of us in favor of legalization need to not only educate the general public about the immense advantages to be gained by legalizing marijuana, but also medical marijuana patients. Once patients come to understand (and most already do – smoking pot does not make you stupid either) how much more accessible and affordable marijuana will be once it is legalized, the sky-is-falling fears of the short-sighted medical cannabis collective growers and operators will be seen as nothing more than self-serving wailings of a profit driven business terrified of not being able to compete in a real-world situation.
     
    Whether this infuriates your or is something you totally agree with, you should listen to my radio show Marijuana Compassion and Common Sense every Monday at 6 pm PSDT. It is broadcast over the air on California's Inland Empire Talk Radio station KCAA 1050AM and simulcast on the Internet at www.kcaaradio.com. Past shows can be accessed 24/7 at the kcaaradio.com website by going to the left hand column and clicking on Monday and then scrolling down the next page to Marijuana Compassion and Common Sense and clicking on Podcast.
     
    Lanny

     

 

 

 

 

    "Bob Swanson" <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 11:02AM -0700  

    <http://www.philly.com/> philly.com
     
    Posted: Sat, Apr. 14, 2012, 3:00 AM
     
    Latin America breaking ranks on drug war
    <http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20120414_Latin_America_breaking_ranks_
    on_drug_war.html>
     
    By Juan Blanco Prada
     

    <http://www.philly.com/philly/opinion/20120414_Latin_America_breaking_ranks_
    on_drug_war.html?imageId=71522845> President Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia
    has declared the drug war a failure and came out in support of
    decriminalization. FERNANDO LLANO / Associated Press
     
    President Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia has declared the drug war a failure
    and came out in support of decriminalization. FERNANDO LLANO / Associated
    Press
     

     
    Latin American countries are rightfully fed up with fighting Washington’s
    war on drugs. In the four decades since President Richard Nixon declared the
    war on drugs, its battles have been fought predominantly in Latin American
    nations, leaving behind a trail of death and corruption while failing to
    achieve any of its goals.
     
    After a bloody, decades-long war in Colombia, the epicenter of drug
    trafficking simply moved north, to Mexico. Upon taking office five years
    ago, Mexican President Felipe Calderón fully embraced the war on drugs, and
    the country quickly entered a downward spiral of violence that has left tens
    of thousands dead, even as the cartels remain as strong as ever.
     
    At the same time, Central America has become a hub for drug smugglers.
    American-style street gangs operate as the armed muscle of the drug cartels,
    bringing the violence in Central America to levels that rival those of the
    civil wars of the 1980s. The bloodshed has even spread to countries that
    until recently enjoyed some of the lowest crime rates in the world, such as
    Costa Rica and Belize.
     
    In addition, the perception in the region is that the United States makes
    tough demands on other governments to combat drug cartels while doing too
    little to reduce demand at home. America remains the largest drug consumer
    market in the world. Furthermore, its lax gun laws have made it the main
    source of weapons for drug cartels, and its financial institutions enjoy
    much of the profit of the drug business.
     
    Some former Latin American leaders and U.S. officials have long advocated
    decriminalization of drugs to address the failure of the existing approach.
    But it’s only been recently that current leaders of Latin American countries
    have joined the calls for that approach.
     
    First, President Juan Manuel Santos of Colombia, a conservative whose nation
    is the United States’ staunchest ally in the war on drugs, declared the drug
    war a failure and came out in support of decriminalization. Then, a few
    weeks ago, President Otto Pérez Molina of Guatemala, a conservative former
    general, said he would consider legalizing the possession and transportation
    of drugs, and he called for a meeting of all of Central America’s presidents
    to debate the issue.
     
    This sounded an alarm in Washington. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet
    Napolitano and Vice President Biden were sent to the region to deliver the
    message that the United States is not interested in debating alternatives to
    its failed strategy.
     
    The arm-twisting was somewhat successful, as the presidents of El Salvador,
    Honduras, and Nicaragua withdrew from the planned summit. But the presidents
    of Costa Rica, Guatemala, and Panama did not back down. In late March, they
    gathered in Antigua, Guatemala, to discuss alternatives to the war on drugs.
     
    We desperately need alternatives. Forty years of the war on drugs have
    caused death and destruction, and increased the power of criminal
    organizations, without a significant reduction in drug use.
     
    The United States must acknowledge this failure and join the nations of
    Latin America in embracing alternatives to the war on drugs, including
    legalization or at least decriminalization of drug use. Otherwise, the
    United States may soon find itself fighting this unwinnable war alone.
     
    Juan Blanco Prada writes for Progressive Media Project.

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Apr 13 07:48PM -0700  

    yeh i dont thinkyou guys fully digested before just towing company
    line. Amendments need to be made. What mickeys trying to get across
    which i agree with portions of is its not helping to have a commerical
    industry roll this out as their victory. Let other coalitions perhapd
    say healthcare workers or someone else who doesnt make their living w
    cannabis be the voice and face . Dont brand it . Again im far more
    curious about what leno just did and think that might be our quiet
    victory this year? Not sure . Need more input. Queit clarity of sb420
    might be the most graceful and successful path?
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    David Malmo-Levine <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 12:03AM -0700  

    We should oppose AB 2312, not because doing so will trick others into
    supporting it, but rather because it's truly a step backwards. From a
    recently published article of mine on this topic:
     
     
     
    I see the same sort of "pot economy exclusivizing" attempts happening in
    the USA. There have been some concerns about how little regulations there
    are in the California med pot market. Most of the articulated concerns
    there center around dispensaries using "sexy nurses" to sell pot. Here are
    a few links:
     
    http://cannabiswarrior.com/2011/11/29/im-too-sexy-for-my-meds-too-sexy-for-my-meds/
    http://cannabiswarrior.com/2011/11/08/putting-medical-cannabis-on-trial/
    http://thepuffingtonhost.com/is-political-correctness-from-within-hurting-the-cause/
    http://ericspitznagel.com/content/published-stories/this-bud%E2%80%99s-for-you/
     
    One of these, the "Medical Marijuana Regulation and Control
    Act"<http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201120120AB2312>
    (MMRCA)
    is similar to Americans for Safe Access's "Medical Marijuana Regulation,
    Control and Taxation Act"<http://americansforsafeaccess.org/downloads/MMRCT.pdf>
    (MMRCTA).
     
    They both make the same fundamental errors: they both
     
    – require everyone in the med pot industry – including drivers – to
    register, thus making it easy and cost effective for the Feds to – with a
    single subpoena – find out who everyone is and charge everyone,
    – make it very easy to set a limit of one dispensary per 50,000 people,
    thus creating a monopoly or cartel. In comparison, there is a limit of one
    wine retail outlet per 1,250 residents in big cities and one wine retail
    outlet per 2,500 residents in smaller towns.
    – create a med pot bureaucracy that is open to corruption instead of
    setting up transparent standards that make it easy for everyone to comply
    without having to know or kiss up to anyone, making corruption nearly
    impossible.
    – allow the licensing board to drag it's heels for six months deciding
    whether or not to allow you to sell pot while you must pay rent on the
    location you've chosen to sell pot from – ensuring only the rich will be
    able to open up a retail outlet.
     
    I spoke over the phone with Valerie Corral, the co-founder/director of the
    longest running medical marijuana distribution operation in the world
    – the Wo/Men's
    Alliance for Medical Marijuana <http://wamm.org/> (WAMM –
    founded<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wo/Men’s_Alliance_for_Medical_Marijuana>
    in
    1993).
     
    She pointed out that over-regulating the med pot industry in Colorado has
    not stopped the Feds from raiding – and local governments from banning -
    med pot dispensaries there. She's right:
     
    http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana/ci_19729182
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/colorado-medical-marijuan_n_1224205.html
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2012/01/12/Feds-Threaten-Colorado-Medical-Marijuana-Dispensaries
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/12/14/Crackdown-Colorado-s-Medical-Pot-Business-Horizon
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2012/02/10/Colorado-Judge-Denies-Request-Block-Fort-Collins-Ban-Medical-Marijuana-Businesses
     
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/27/medical-marijuana-deadlin_n_1303712.html
     
    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/01/13/feds-crack-down-on-colorado-medical-pot-dispensaries/
     
    http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/01/feds_announce_colorado_medical_marijuana_crackdown.php
     
     
    The Colorado Medical Marijuana
    Registry<http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/regulations/vitalstatistics/100602medicalusemarijuana.pdf>,
    which is already in effect, stipulates that;
     
    ii) "Primary care-giver" means a person other than the patient and the
    patient's physician, who is eighteen years of age or older and has
    significant responsibility for managing the wellbeing of a patient who has
    a debilitating medical condition. A person shall be listed as a primary
    care-giver for no more than five patients in the medical marijuana program
    registry at any given time unless a waiver has been granted for exceptional
    circumstances, as per Regulation Ten below.
     
    But when one goes on to read "Regulation Ten", it is unclear what
    "circumstances" allows one to qualify for such a waiver.
     
    Valerie Corral pointed out:
     
    The Colorado initiative would prevent WAMM from serving the sick, dying,
    and financially marginalized patients. In Colorado there is no part of the
    law that encourages service to the poor in the form of the true collective.
    In fact, their regulations encourage an entrepreneurial model, with service
    to the patient at the bottom.
     
    She continued:
     
    It's the same story of rich protecting their interests. As multinational
    pharmaceutical mogul GW Pharmaceuticals, and others in the competitive
    corporate market prepare to assume control of the medical marijuana
    industry and its potential mult-billion dollar industry, the question
    arises; could we as the fundamental force behind this movement do something
    besides join in the struggle to become corporate idealist?
     
    Did we completely miss our opportunity to create a unified force and not
    succumb to becoming the pharmaceutical industry?
     
    Ordinary people, growers, collective participants, old school activists
    with honest standards can't afford to be a part of this mega-dollar
    industry. But mostly it is the marginalized patient who suffers. In
    Colorado, they have extremely rigid standards – 24 hour surveillance – and
    no mechanism to serve the poor. When they created a regulatory system in
    Santa Cruz county, they also wrote in a exemption that allows for
    pre-existing collectives. There are no such exemptions in any of the
    present California State-wide medical marijuana regulations. In fact one
    threatens to eliminate WAMM. How could they be so ignorant as to betray
    history?
     
    I don't think it is as intentional as it is a fundamental flaw in the way
    they see their future roles. Some of these activist lawmakers actually
    think that they will become the new corporation. I just don't believe that
    the corporate power wielders perceive a potential $12.5 million industry as
    something that they care to share.
     
    She sent me the link to the Colorado MM Registry on her work computer, a
    twelve-year-old beast. Corral has, virtually, taken an oath of poverty and
    hardly takes enough in donations to meet her basic necessities. I believe
    that people should have the right to choose to live that way, but that any
    med pot regulations that do not allow people to choose to make enough money
    for dentistry or computers or vacations or raising children (including
    providing tuition for them) was unjust.
     
    In the process of fact-checking the story, Corral corrected me a little:
     
    I haven't taken an oath of poverty. On the contrary I am extremely
    fortunate and through the strangest set of circumstances, I live in one of
    the most beautiful places in the world. For how much longer I cannot say.
    But that is for many reasons. I just prefer to work with people than I do
    with pot (as you call it). I am now writing you from my MacBook Pro.
     
    Corral continued:
     
    Shouldn't you ask who you serve what they want before you give it to them?
    Long ago Ross Perot flew frozen turkeys to Indonesia for relief after a
    Hurricane … problem was that Indonesians don't eat frozen turkeys – they
    sat rotting on the runway. People should consult with us before regulating
    us. They didn't.
     
    Had we – the Californian cannabis community – coalesced into a unified
    force, devoted to the mission we convinced Californians that we were
    committed to, to service, transparency, and accountability, we would have
    created an infallible model. Instead of taking us out one by one, we could
    have become a union of service, an invincible force. But we didn't, and now
    we are suffering from the problems we have engendered; presuming that the
    mega-corporations want us at the table. Not likely.
     
    I asked her about Dennis Peron, and how he was allowed to make enough money
    to be politically-active, and whether or not she thought he should have
    been able to do so:
     
    The whole origin of medical marijuana activists came out of gay men who
    were tired of being beaten and slammed. When it came to medical marijuana -
    they just put it down on the list of all the shit they already had to deal
    with. Dennis is a revolutionary. But it's not about revolution, it's about
    evolution, John Trudell so aptly told me… we don't need to revolve back to
    where we were, he said … we need to evolve beyond.
     
    I agree with Corral that had nobody attempted to create a cannabis cartel
    with Prop 19 and everyone had focused on putting the patient first, to
    being accountable and transparent, the movement would have been much harder
    to attack than it has been.
     
    I feel that people who wish to earn a living from selling cannabis should
    be able to do so – or continue to do so. I just don't believe that one
    person should be making all of – or most of – the money.
     
    What we should be united around is the right to be equal with the wine
    grape growers and wine merchants – and eventually the coffee bean growers
    and coffee merchants. These growers and merchants don't have to pay tuition
    for a degree in microbiology (or anything else) in order to be legitimate,
    they don't have to close down if they're 1000 feet from a school, they
    don't have to wait six months for a license, and they are not limited to
    one retail outlet per 50,000 residents.
     
    If these merchants choose to run a not-for-profit operation they have that
    freedom, but they can also make a decent living for themselves. No one
    person or group is allowed to monopolize the sales of all the wine or all
    the coffee.
     
    If we all unite together and demand equality with these other substance
    providers, everyone will have enough for our needs – without all the greed.
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/30181
     
     
     
     
     
    On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM, s..[email protected] <

     

    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 04:28PM -0400  

    hi
    our regulations for alcohol work pretty well. As do our regulations fror tabacco. mIt seems to me that tabacco being the bigger health risk than alcohol that using the yabacco regulations as a point of departure makes more sense. Cannabis compares even more favorably with tabacco than it does with alcohol. While I'm not intimately familiar with tabaco regulations I'm pretty sure that they are looser than alcohol regs
    peace
    dr.dave
     

     

    Richard Muller <s..[email protected]> Apr 13 11:18PM -0700  

    Hi all,
    Even if you are disappointed with Barack Obama as a result of local raids.  Consider the alternative.  I am not going because I have responsibilities here….but you may want to.
    Richard
     
    — On Fri, 4/13/12, Mary Jane Stevenson, CA.BarackObama.com <s..[email protected]> wrote:
     
    Apply by Sunday: Field Organizer Academy in Oakland
     
     
     
    Richard –
     
     
     
    I wanted to make sure you saw my note about our upcoming Field Organizer Academy in Oakland, starting on April 21st. See below for all the details.
     
     
     
    There are still a few spots available, but they're going fast.
     
     
     
    So if you think you'd like a shot at becoming a field organizer and relocating to work in a battleground state this year, apply for the Academy now — or by Sunday, April 15th, at the latest:
     
    http://ca.barackobama.com/Oakland-Organizer-Academy
     
     
     
    Thank you,
     
     
     
    Mary Jane
     
     
     
    —————–Original Message—————–
     
     
     
     
     
    Friend –
     
     
     
    We're looking at a lot of pathways to win in November, but they all have one thing in common: They each require the best field operation in politics.
     
     
     
    If you'd like to get in on the action where it counts the most, here's your chance.
     
     
     
    This month, there's a Field Organizer Academy in Oakland. It's a two-week training program — and those who complete it successfully will be evaluated for upcoming field organizer jobs in battleground states.
     
    Are you interested? Submit your application here by April 15th.
     
     
     
    The Academy will kick off with a full-day training on April 21st. For the two weeks that follow — until Friday, May 4th — you'll spend 20 hours a week learning the ropes of organizing by working to meet field goals, and finding out what the day-to-day life of an organizer is like.
     
     
     
    The training will be hands-on and intensive. You'll be doing the actual work that a field organizer job will entail: organizing events, training volunteers, and talking with new folks about why they should take that first step and get involved.
     
     
     
    You'll meet some incredible people, from volunteers to fellow organizers to the voters you'll talk with each day about what the President and Democrats are fighting for.
     
     
     
    But here's the most important part: You could go to a key battleground state and join a team that's going to shape the outcome of this election.
     
     
     
    If you're up for a move to where the action is, this Academy is for you.
     
    So apply now to attend the Field Organizer Academy in Oakland starting on April 21st:
     
    http://ca.barackobama.com/Oakland-Organizer-Academy
     
     
     
    If you're selected, we'll follow up with the details.
     
     
     
    Thanks, and good luck,
     
     
     
    Mary Jane
     
     
     
    Mary Jane Stevenson
     
    California State Director
     
    Obama for America
     
     

     

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    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 04:32PM -0400  

    Hi
    Obama is a hypocrit and a liar. While I may still hold my bose and vote for him because Romney is an even bigger phony that is no reason not to take Obama to task for not being a man opf his word. He should not get a free pass for saying one thing and doing another. where I come fromj that is bait and switch and it is plain wrong.
    peace
    Dr. Dave
     

     

    Pebbles Trippet <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 12:24AM -0700  

    Yes, Shona,
    the US Supreme Court rejected review of the California case.
    They allowed the great Kha decision –
    forcing the return of property (marijuana) after dismissal of charges
    — to stand,
    regardless of contrary federal law.
    So, federal law does not pre-empt state law with respect to return of
    medical marijuana after dismissal of criminal charges.
    STATES RIGHTS PREVAIL, according to the Supreme Court.
    You can't go any higher so that's the end of the story.
     
    The US Supremes are giving us the clue that federal cannabis prohibition
    cannot ultimately win in a battle with states rights, no matter how
    bleak it gets in the moment.
     
    Atty Joe Elford's victory on behalf of Kau means the private medical
    property
    of a cannabis patient in medical marijuana states is explicitly
    protected;
    it is not hypothetical.
     
    And every time we hear the opposition claiming federal law is opposed
    to all marijuana and pre-empts state law,
    we can cite Kau as precedent to the contrary to show, the times they
    are a-changin'.
     
    pebbles trippet
     
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    <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 12:44AM  

    I plan on supporting Ammiano's Bill. Here in Southern California (a whole different place from Northern California) Most police agencies don't know what to do with collectives. Cities was to eradicate them, and things are in gray areas. This bill will take most of the grays out of law. I just sat through a three week trial where they would not allow the AG Guidelines, because the judge said they are just guidelines, not law. It is important to have all the collectives registered with the state, all paying taxes and all accountable. This will get those who don't want to help patients out of the business (Cartels and such).
     
     
     
     
     
    Let me get this straight:
     
    — Stricter state regulations of medical cannabis are desperately needed in California.
     
    — Some of the brightest minds in the industry band together after the federal crackdown and draft a comprehensive, statewide regulatory structure that largely pre-empts local dispensary bans. (That's what actually happened, whether you like what they did or not.)
     
    — Ammiano picks up a lot of the language in MMRCT and introduces AB 2312.
     
    — You think the best way to pass stricter state regulations is to oppose AB 2312.
     
    I won't even bother going point-by-point on what the bill actually does; nobody seems to care. Some people oppose any type of stricter regulation, preferring to cling to the mast of a sinking ship. Some people will settle for nothing less than full legalization, even though medical-only cannabis distribution is in total chaos.
     
    Politicians get labeled every day as being "in the pocket" of this industry or that, and if their opponents want to make a point of that in the debate, that's cool. Before that happens, however, maybe we all could spend a little more time doing what the politicians do between mudslinging episodes: Read and write proposed laws, hammer them out in committee, and more committees after that. THEN you can argue about what the bill does and who's an idiot (or not) for supporting it.
     
    Opposing AB 2312 just because Ammiano is friendly to the cause and the bill faces an uphill battle makes no sense. The late, great ghost of Ronald Reagan could write the next pot-regulation bill and the GOP lawmakers wouldn't support it. If Ammiano can't count on our support now, why should be stick his neck out for us next time? And why should anyone else?

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 05:33AM -0700  

    Those are all valid points. If we all start today we should have this thing worked out by 2016 easy.
     
     
     

     

    LANNYSWERDLOW <s..[email protected]> Apr 14 04:04AM -0700  

    The reason we are getting our asses whipped in the state legislature is not because most legislators see Ammiano and Leno as being in the pocket of the mmj folks, but because mmj folks are almost totally uninvolved in the political process unlike the cops and city officials who unite to oppose us.
     
    How many mmj people are involved in their county's Democratic and Republican central committees? How many mmj people are involved in PACs raising money to buy our elected officials votes? How many mmj people are volunteering to help candidates who support us in the their election campaigns? How many mmj patients are running for local offices? Our opponents are involved in all of those and hardly any of us are and that's why mmj continues to be laughed at, scorned and run over with a bulldozer by state and local elected official.
     
    In Riverside County, I am forming a Riverside County Cannabis Democratic Club. When organized it becomes an official part of the Democratic Central Committee with access to many of the resources and officials of the local Democratic Party. I need 20 people to sign up and have 18 now, so I expect to have the needed number by the end of the week.
     
    So stop throwing your hands and legs up in the air, writing diatribes against the people who are actually doing something to try and help, crying woe is us and complaining that we don't have any power and start doing something to get that power.
     
    Lanny

     

February 7, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 25 Messages in 13 Topics

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 11:04PM -0800  

    hi … Im hearing that mendo city council voted us down? Is this realy
    happening? Was anyone present today who can give us a real person
    update? Th
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    William Panzer <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 06:37PM -0800  

    There are at least two distinct questions that need to be raised
    concerning each of the initiatives:
     
    1. What does the initiative propose to do? and
     
    2. How well is it drafted to actually accomplish what it proposes to do?
     
    For example, an initiative may have the finest intentions as its
    purpose, but if it is drafted in a less than legally artful manner it
    may leave itself open for "interpretation" by unfriendly courts that
    could have the effect of eviscerating the initiative. So, in addition
    to representatives of each initiative being involved in a debate, I
    think it would be very helpful for a panel of attorneys experienced in
    cannabis law, and unaffiliated with any of the particular initiatives,
    to review the various initiatives and issue an opinion as to the quality
    of the drafting and susceptibility to "re-interpretation" by the courts.
     
    Additionally, a panel of unbiased attorneys could help in determining if
    claims made by the proponents are accurate. For example, if someone
    says that a particular initiative doesn't remove cannabis from the
    schedules, while the proponents contend that it does, the attorneys can
    effectively resolve the disagreement so that the attendees can make a
    more informed decision. I believe this is advisable, unfortunately,
    because some people have spread glaring untruths about some of these
    initiatives and continue to do so, even when confronted with the facts.
     
    Bill Panzer

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 04:58PM -0800  

    sad but true this isnt not confirmed. I just got off the horn with
    King Kessler ? And no the city family so to speak has not moved to
    resume….yet . They are still in a holding pattern. According to our
    lead dept .which is the health dept. Not sure why chris went ahead?
    But heres the reality . Cloudy possible rain or sunshine or prehaps
    even a deep freeze? Attempting humor as I pull my hair .chris pls post
    an update? Or touch base with dph? Or something? Asap? But them aint
    the facts as much as we wish it were.
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 05:40PM -0800  

    HI Chris ? First of let me sincerely thank you for your continue
    coverage of safe access issues. However? I just clarified with our
    lead department as an aplicant that no decision has been reached on sf
    approach to resuming permit process. While its true that yes our city
    attnys work for our city departments? Our leads will always be dan
    sider for planning . Playing second fiddle to our lead guitar larry
    kessler of our health dept . As an aplicant? Im going to take our
    medical cannabis prgm directors word that nothing is solid yet and I
    think it would be wise to clarify to your audience . This could cause
    more confusion . I talkd to larry at the close of his day… So .. Pls
    take under advice sometimes ive noticed when dealing with govt its
    good to connect all the dots before presenting as fact. Again no harm
    no foul and much graditude to your coverage we all are thankful but
    correction requested.
     
    Dispensary Permits Again
     
    Hi Shona –
     
    This information came straight from the City Attorney's office, which
    is quoted in the article. I haven't talked to Larry recently, but they
    get their legal advice from the City Attorney.
     
    Thanks,
    C
     
    On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur
    > Axis of Love SF
    > http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    > http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove
     
     
     

    Christopher Roberts
    4244 Judah #1
    SF CA 94122
    (phone#-removed)
    SF Appeal archives: http://tinyurl.com/yen4oee
    SF Weekly archives: http://bit.ly/78gliP
     
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    David Malmo-Levine <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 12:45PM -0800  

    We Must Choose One Initiative by David Malmo-Levine – Tuesday, January 24
    2012
     
     
    "There are three viable initiatives for cannabis legalization that are
    bidding to make the ballot in California, and the honest truth is that we
    cannot afford to split the effort for legalization into three camps, all
    fighting for resources and energy. We must choose one effort to rally
    around and all put our best foot forward if we have any chance of making
    the ballot and actually passing a cannabis freedom initiative in 2012. Any
    of the initiatives are better than what we have now by a long shot." -
    Mickey Martin, Dec. 30, 2011
     
    http://cannabiswarrior.com/2011/12/30/why-we-must-choose-one-initiative-…<http://cannabiswarrior.com/2011/12/30/why-we-must-choose-one-initiative-and-all-get-behind-it/>
     
    For once I find myself agreeing with Mickey Martin. We shouldn't be
    fighting amongst each other for funding and volunteers, we should just pick
    the best initiative and go with it.
     
    I should disclose at this point I also serve as “Director of Activist
    Communications” for the Regulate Marijuana Like Wine Act (RMLW) team. I’ve
    already chosen which initiative is the best one. But I will still try and
    do a good job of accurately pointing out the relevant information that
    would allow an undecided person to decide which initiative it would be in
    their own interest to support. The comment section will be open – as always
    – for others to add information they find relevant and correct me on any
    mistakes they feel I may have made in this analysis.
     
    There is talk on the Drug Policy Forum of California email list of a
    "Cannadome" – a "four initiatives enter and one leaves" debate event.
    However, don't hold your breath for RMLW to participate in such an event,
    as others involved in it enjoy misspeaking about our team and then when we
    successfully refute their confused statements they refuse to print
    retractions, ever. For example, Mickey Martin misrepresented RMLW Chief
    Officer Steve Kubby’s statement of support for all the initiatives as a
    statement saying he was pulling his initiative from the running – and never
    printed a retraction:
     
    http://cannabiswarrior.com/2011/09/17/kubby-folds-endorses-rcpa2012-over…<http://cannabiswarrior.com/2011/09/17/kubby-folds-endorses-rcpa2012-over-like-wine/>
     
    Even when it was pointed out to him that he was mistaken:
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/09/29/Battle-Marijuana-Bi…<http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/09/29/Battle-Marijuana-Bills-Why-Regulate-Better-Repeal>
     
    Bill Panzer called me a liar, and then failed to apologize when I proved
    myself to be correct (see the article and the comment section, DML, Wed,
    11/16/2011 – 12:24):
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/28992
     
    We expect more of the same from these people.
     
    The RMLW team is all for the public comparing our initiatives and for our
    community to rally behind the best one, but I feel such a comparison could
    take place in an article like this far more easily than in an event.
     
    Currently in the running there are four marijuana-related initiatives that
    could be on the California ballot in 2012. Three involve legalization and
    one involves the regulation of medicinal marijuana. Let's look at the
    medicinal marijuana regulation initiative first.
     
    It's called the "California Medical Marijuana Regulation, Control and
    Taxation Act".
     
    It has a website: http://www.regulatemedicalmarijuana.org/
     
    You can read the actual initiative here:
    americansforsafeaccess.org/downloads/MMRCT.pdf
     
    I read the initiative and then sent it's author and chief proponent,
    California Cannabis Association organizer and attorney George Mull some
    questions – his answers are in block quotes:
     
    1) It says in your press release of Jan. 19th, 2012, that:
     
    "Mandate state registration after July 1, 2013 for every person in
    California engaged in cultivating, processing, manufacturing, transporting,
    distributing, selling medical marijuana for use by others."
     
    Would federal prosecutors have access to this information?
     
    The initiative mandates that "No funds shall be spent by state or local
    officials to assist federal authorities in enforcing marijuana prohibition
    on activities carried out by persons in compliance with the provisions of
    this article. Section 11362.97(b). This mandates that state and local
    officials not actively assist federal authorities, but nothing passed as
    state law, whether by the legislature or by initiative, would be able to
    stop a federal warrant.
     
    If the answer is yes, does this not put everyone at risk of federal
    prosecution?
     
    There is always a risk of federal prosecution and would continue to be with
    registration. The hope is that with a well regulated system in place, there
    is actually less likelihood of federal prosecution of registrants as long
    as they are acting in conformance with the regulations.
     
    If the answer is no, what provisions within the Act will prevent federal
    prosecutors having access to this information?
     
    As stated earlier, a proper subpoena could get at specific information.
     
    2) It says on the FAQ page:
     
    "While the Act imposes a sales tax of 2.5% on medical marijuana, patients
    can expect an overall decrease in the cost of their medication due to the
    lower operating expenses from a safe, well-regulated environment."
     
    What operating expenses would you expect to be lowered from this Act?
     
    The better way to view this, in my opinion, is that registration, and the
    concomitant benefit of knowing that the business is legal and authorized
    under state and local rules, will allow more certainty as to return on
    investment. This will allow providers to feel secure in recovering their
    investment over a longer period, without feeling they need to recover their
    investment in a short time out of fear they will be closed before making
    their money back.
     
    3) Does Article 2.8 of the Act permit a minimum of one dispensary per
    50,000 residents of a city? Is there a maximum number of dispensaries
    allowed per 50,000 residents?
     
    Yes, there will be a minimum of one dispensary per 50,000 residents in any
    city with a population of greater than 50,000 persons. The maximum in
    excess of that could be set by the county or city. Any city or county
    wanting LESS than one per 50,000 would only be able to accomplish that by
    putting a measure on the ballot and having the people approve that smaller
    number or ban.
     
    His answers reveal to me three things:
     
    1) He is unconcerned that this initiative solves the US Federal
    Government's only obstacle of rounding up of all those involved in
    dispensaries at once – how to get all the information about everyone
    involved. The Feds lack the resources to do this … this initiative does
    this.
     
    2) Any concerns addressed by med pot clubs being "more legal" under state
    law will be outweighed by the "making it easier for the Feds to get
    everyone" element, and therefore there will be no savings to "operational
    expenses".
     
    3) His initiative makes total prohibitions difficult but monopolies easy.
    In contrast, RMLW makes both total prohibitions AND monopolies impossible.
     
    For these reasons, the "California Medical Marijuana Regulation, Control
    and Taxation Act" is worse than no change at all, and I will be advising
    people not to support it or vote for it.
     
    Now let's look at the remaining three initiatives:
     
    The "California Cannabis Hemp & Health Initiative 2012" is by far the best
    of the three initiatives from the cannabis community's perspective. It has
    large personal grow allowances – 99 plants – minimal licensing requirements
    and minimal taxation. It is also known as the "Jack Herer" initiative and
    has been trying to get on the ballot for years. It was written by Chris
    Conrad and edited by Jack's lawyer – Bill McPike. Mr. McPike was also the
    main author of RMLW.
     
    The reason it probably won't make the ballot this year is the reason it
    hasn't ever made the ballot – it has yet to attract the millions of dollars
    required to collect signatures. My intuition tells me that it won't get
    this money until there are thousands of "like-wine" pot cafes willing to
    pool their resources, as the billionaires who fund initiatives are careful
    only to give money to initiatives that poll over 60%, and the "minimal
    regulation" model that CCHHI represents barely polls over 50%.
     
    If you happen to be one of those billionaires who is willing to put a
    million or two on a longshot, this is the website to go to:
     
    http://www.cchhi2012.org/
     
    The last remaining initiatives are the "repeal" initiative and the "wine
    model" initiative. Both stand a chance of attracting major funding.
     
    Let's examine these last two initiatives with these questions in mind.
     
    How does the wording of the initiative poll among potential voters?
     
    How much money has the initiative already raised?
     
    How many signatures has the initiative gathered so far?
     
    How many endorsements has the initiative managed to gather?
     
    Let's look at the numbers and see which one is in the lead.
     
    *
    *
    *Polling** *
     
    **
     
    "A recent article by Phil Smith of
    StoptheDrugWar.org<http://stopthedrugwar.org/>reports, "Marijuana
    Legalization Trails in New California
    Poll"<http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/sep/22/marijuana_legalization_trails_ne>.
    According to Smith, "The Public Policy Institute of California poll had 51%
    opposing pot legalization, with 46% in favor." However, we should point out
    that there is a world of difference between "legalization" and "regulation".
     
    Take the following poll by the Economist on *regulation*:
     
    30. Some people say marijuana should be treated like alcohol and tobacco.
    They say it should be regulated and taxed and made illegal for minors. Do
    you agree?
     
    Strongly agree . . 34%
     
    Agree . . 24%
     
    Neither agree, nor disagree . . 19%
     
    Disagree . . 7%
     
    Strongly disagree . . 16%
     
    As you can see, Strongly Agree + Agree = 34% + 24% or 58% support. However,
    this was a nationwide poll of 1,000 respondents. When data just for the
    West was teased out of the results by Fairbank, Maslin, Maullin, Metz &
    Associates, the * polling climbs to 62%.*
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/09/29/Polls-Show-World-Difference-Between-Marijuana-Legalization-and-Regulation-Califor
     
    In this independent poll of cannabis activists on Facebook, *RMLW has
    beaten it's next closest competitor by 3 to 1* (221 votes to 72 votes and
    37 votes):
     
    http://www.facebook.com/questions(phone#-removed)141/
     
    *
    *
    *Amount of money and number of signatures** *
     
    **
     
    "But the news wasn't all bad–apparently, the fourth quarter of last year
    saw a major boost for the so-called Regulate Marijuana Like Wine
    Initiative<http://regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/>,
    which is slated for this November's ballot and if passed, would effectively
    legalize marijuana for recreational use by adults. Specifically, according
    to the campaign's organizers, *they raised $100,000 and collected 20,000
    signatures* last fall."- OC Weekly, Jan 3, 2012
     
    http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2012/01/regulate_marijuana_like_wine_i.php
     
    No other initiative even comes close to those numbers … or looks like
    they will, for that matter.
     
    *
    *
    *Number of endorsements** *
     
    **
     
    RMLW:
     
    Gov. Gary Johnson <http://youtu.be/dHgBLFiW0AQ>
     
    Congressman Dana Rohrabacher <http://youtu.be/P9FTogObTgY>
     
    Kenny Loggins <http://youtu.be/Y2E57KHPAKI>
     
    Judge James P. Gray
    (ret.)<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fHiP5qdwxjs>
     
    LAPD Deputy Chief S. Downing (ret.)<>
     
    Assemblymember Chris Norby <http://arc.asm.ca.gov/member/72/>
     
    Lt. Diane Goldstein (ret.) <>
     
    Ed Rosenthal <http://youtu.be/HbcZIicLXck>
     
    NORML Founder Keith
    Stroup<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=34aDkiWEfEw>
     
    Tommy Chong<http://www.celebstoner.com(phone#-removed)/blogs/tommy-chong/tommy-chong-regulate-marijuana-like-wine.html>
     
    Rick Steves<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QS-oHnqEaiQ>
     
    Vivian McPeak, Seattle
    Hempfest<http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3MYS3fr0xlk>
     
    Lynnette Shaw Marin Alliance <http://www.marinij.com/marinnews/ci_19134171>
     
    Alice Huffman, President California
    NAACP<>
     
    Rob Kampia, MPP <>
     
    Norm Stamper, former Seattle Police Chief <http://www.leap.cc/author/Norm/>
     
    Craig Beresh<http://prohibitionsend.com/2011/08/29/city-and-county-ordinances-being-shot-down-by-referendums-in-california/>
    California
    Cannabis Coalition <http://californiacannabiscoalition.org/>
     
    A New PATH (Parents for Addiction Treatment & Healing)<http://anewpathsite.org/>
     
    LEAP (Law Enforcement Against
    Prohibition<http://copssaylegalize.blogspot.com/2011/09/cops-and-judges-endorse-california-2012.html>
    )
     
    The
    <http://thirdpartypolitics.us/blog/2012/01/17/libertarian-party-endorses-regulate-marijuana-like-wine/>Libertarian
    Party<http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-regulate-marijuana-like-wine>
     
    Marc Emery<http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2012/01/15/Marc-Emerys-Advice-Aspiring-Activists%0A>
     
    RCPA:
     
    Grace Slick
     
    Dr. Lester Grinspoon
     
    http://repealcannabisprohibition.org/index.php?page=display&id=87
     
    We can spend all day and all night arguing about which initiative has the
    better wording … and the fact of the matter is, we already have done so:
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/09/29/Battle-Marijuana-Bills-Why-Regulate-Better-Repeal
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/28992
     
    http://regulatemarijuanalikewine.com/compare-california-marijuana-initiatives/
     
    But the truth of the matter is that one team has gotten organized first and
    submitted it's language first, is way ahead in public AND activist polling
    AND fundraising AND endorsements. It’s the wine model by a long shot.
     
    The RMLW team has paid for a professional private polling firm to see how
    our initiative does with 800 potential California voters. We expect the
    results back in late January. We expect to get at least 55% support for our
    initiative. We expect to attract big money donations if our initiative does
    well in this poll. If other initiatives can’t even raise the money to do
    such polling and we poll at or over 55%, we strongly recommend those
    organizing the other initiatives to read the writing on the wall, quit
    beating their heads against the wall and join our initiative early enough
    to take positions of responsibility and influence. Being on the winning
    team is the best way to ensure one will actually earn the bragging rights
    that is inevitably tied to such a victory.
     
    Many people predict an increase in cannabis crackdowns in the USA. As one
    writer put it:
     
    "Logic and culture will not be relevant in the coming marijuana madness;
    all that shall matter is that even more money and resources will accrue to
    the benefit of the most powerful in society." -
    http://publiccitizen.sonomaportal.com/2012/01/19/marijuana-madness/
     
    The madness will not end by educational activities alone. It will not end
    by appealing to reason, or lobbying politicians, or through the courts.
    Only the initiative process has a hope of success, because it's the only
    process that has yielded results.
     
    Perhaps, if the wine model doesn't pass in 2012, we can all band together
    and try the repeal model next time. Perhaps, if the wine model *does* pass
    in 2012, we can band together and push the Jack Herer initiative through
    next time. That's the type of unity that the movement should be displaying
    during these difficult times.
     
    Given the fact that times are tough, money raising is not easy, the raids
    are happening left and right … it's time to get honest

     

    Andrew Merkel <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 01:32PM -0800  

    Please add if possible.
     
    Andrew Merkel
    Sent from my iPad

     

    Andrew Merkel <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 12:30PM -0800  

    Dan
     
    Would the Union be interested in backing our No Campaign in June? The Citizens For Compassionate Use a running a campaign to stop a cultivation ordinance on the June Ballot in Butte County Ca. As much as the Union needs support on the cause, so do we.
    These individuals working for us in elected positions, are bending the rules for their favor ie: Law Enforcement.
     
    Would your Union consider backing the MMJ Farmers of Butte County. These are the people that grow the medicine for the patients. As much as I enjoyed running NVHH in Chico ca my heart and sole is with the farmers SAFETY.
     
    Butte county uses tactics such as tracking devices and other orthodox methods. I have met with Mr. Gentry in Chico in August about Unionizing.
     
    We run a clean campaign.
     
    We need your support. In fact we all need each others support to move into the feature.
     
    Andrew Merkel
    (phone#-removed)

     
    Sent from my iPad

     

    Andrew Merkel <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 11:13AM -0800  

    We should save this for cannadome.
     
    Just going to put people on edge. Lots of people have spent countless hours working for the cause. They should work hard to persuade people to choose their initiative.
     
    : United we stand divided we fall.
    Lets not divide
    Go Micky.
     
    AM
     
    Sent from my iPhone

     

    Richard Muller <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 08:34AM -0800  

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Hi all,
     
    there appears to be a real hatchet job being done on Ross Mirkaimi, Embattled San Francisco Sheriff.  If we do not speak up for a man who has been very active in supporting issues relating to Medical Marijuana in San  Francisco we will loose him to press manipulation. Many times I have stood shoulder to shoulder with Ross Mirkaimi  at the Federal building relating to persecution of growers and Federal intervention in San Francisco MCD's.  He is a profoundly honorable man who seems to be being smeared in the press in the hopes that he will not be San Francisco Sheriff.  I can see a serious attempt to oust him using bad PR stories in the press.
     
    I smell big fat rats….nibbling at his reputation in an attempt to oust an ally of Medical Marijuana.
     
    Just my opinion…
     
    Richard
     
    Ross Mirkaimi, Embattled San Francisco Sheriff, Now Facing New Domestic Violence Allegations
     
    (CLICK ON LINK)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/23/ross-mirkaimi-embattled-s_n_1225399.html
     
     
    Things just keep getting worse for Ross Mirkarimi.
    San Francisco's newly elected Sheriff is now facing a second domestic abuse complaint–this time from ex-girlfriend Christina Flores, who filed a police report this week stemming from a series of incidents during their 2007-2008 relationship.
    Mirkarimi is already being charged with three misdemeanor counts of domestic violence battery, child endangerment and dissuading a witness based on a New Year's Eve altercation with his wife, former Venezuelan telenovela star Eliana Lopez.
    In her complaint, Flores alleged that, in at least once incident, Mirkarimi grabbed her and pinned her against the wall during a heated argument leaving a visible bruise.
    Flores told police that she came forward now because she was worried for Lopez and wanted to alert authorities about Mirkarimi's history of violence toward women, particularly in light of Lopez's vehement denial of any wrongdoing on the part of Mirkarimi.
    "The reason I decided to talk now, now it's involving a woman recanting something I know he is capable of," Flores told SF Weekly in an exclusive interview. "He's like a pit bull. He snaps, and he gets mad, and he goes right for the jugular."
    "I believe he's going to dig his own grave, which is fine. But you don't take another woman down with you," added Flores.
     
    He has pleaded not guilty to all charges and appears to have no intention of either permanently stepping down or taking a temporary leave of absence from his position overseeing the city's prison system.
    "The real travesty here is what the courts and the press are doing, saying that a person is guilty when they're innocent," Mirkarimi supporter and friend Kary McElroy told Fog City Journal at the sheriff's arraignment last week. "I absolutely believe it's politically motivated, because Ross is standing for the people, the disenfranchised, and the power brokers of this city want to eliminate all liberals and make this for the rich only."
    Mayor Ed Lee has the power to temporarily suspend Mirkarimi but, at present, has seemed reluctant to do so.
    Mirkarimi's trial is set to begin on February 24th.
    In similar (albeit unrelated) news, San Francisco Assistant District Attorney Sanaz Nikaein has been placed on administrative leave after her recent arrest on domestic violence charges.
     
     
    ==================================================================
    This is the original story so big it was in a Las Vegas paper….
    SF sheriff pleads not guilty to domestic violence
    The Associated Press
     
    (CLICK ON LINK)
    http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/jan/24/us-sf-sheriff-domestic-violence/
     
    Tuesday, Jan. 24, 2012 | 3:32 a.m.
    San Francisco's new sheriff pleaded not guilty to domestic violence and other charges Thursday as a judge ordered him to stay away from his wife and toddler son despite her tearful pleas not to keep the family apart.
    Sheriff Ross Mirkarimi's lawyer, Robert Waggener, entered the pleas during an arraignment in San Francisco Superior Court, where Mirkarimi, 50, is also charged with child endangerment and dissuading a witness after a New Year's Eve incident with Lopez at their home.
    Judge Susan Breall issued a stay-away order requiring Mirkarimi not to have any contact with his wife, Eliana Lopez, or their 2-year-old son.
    "The violence against me is that I don't have my family together," Lopez said repeatedly in court. "Let me have my family together. This is the only reason I am here is that I have my family with Ross."
    Lopez, 36, a former Venezuelan telenovela star, also told the judge that she is not some "poor little immigrant," and added, "I'm not afraid of my husband at all."
    Mirkarimi, who did not speak during Thursday's hearing, could be seen taking his glasses off and wiping away tears during Lopez's testimony.
    Breall said she found Lopez to be strong, engaging and "quite charming." But the judge said that based on an arrest warrant affidavit that contains "physical and emotional abuse," a stay-away order was still necessary.
    "I believe Eliana when she says the sheriff is a good person and a loving father. I absolutely believe that," Breall said. "I believe Eliana never wanted this to go to this extreme and to end up in court.
    "This is still a volatile situation. The affidavit shows a volatile situation."
    During the frenzied two-hour hearing, prosecutor Elizabeth Aguilar-Tarchi argued that the stay-away order was requested because of the charges and not because of Mirkarimi's status.
    Waggener said he was disappointed with the judge's ruling.
    "I don't think there was a basis for a stay-away order. I don't think the proper decision was made. We'll come back and we'll fight it," Waggener said. "Mr. Mirkarimi did not commit domestic violence, he did not endanger his child, and he did not try to dissuade his wife from talking to the police or anybody else. That's the bottom line."
    Mirkarimi is due in court again Monday to set a trial date and again on Jan. 26 to request a modification of the stay-away order.
    According to the arrest affidavit released Tuesday, Mirkarimi is alleged to have mistreated his wife on two separate occasions last year and to have told her he was a "very powerful" man who could take away their son.
    Lopez appeared on a Jan. 1 videotape candidly discussing the Dec. 31 confrontation and another incident earlier last year, according to the affidavit.
    The footage was shot by a neighbor, Ivory Madison, whose call to police prompted an investigation. Lopez is crying and visibly upset about the couple's run-in the day before, the affidavit said, and she points to a bruise on her right bicep where she said Mirkarimi grabbed her.
    "This happened yesterday," Lopez tells the camera. "Two times in 2011, and this is the second time this is happening."
    Madison eventually told police investigators what Lopez had relayed to her but would not surrender the videotape. Police obtained it and other evidence through a search warrant.
    Investigators from the district attorney's office later found another neighbor who gave an account similar to Madison's and said Lopez described Mirkarimi as "going ballistic." The neighbor also said the couple's son told his mother, "Daddy made boo-boo on Mommy's arm."
    Lopez married Mirkarimi after having their first child in 2009. She said in court Thursday that her son woke up early in the morning asking for his father and she promised that he would be home Friday.
    She was wearing a shirt she said her son had decorated that read, "I want Daddy back."
    Meanwhile, several domestic violence groups have called for Mirkarimi to either step aside temporarily until the case is closed or resign.
    Mirkarimi, who was sworn in as sheriff nearly two weeks ago after serving two terms as a San Francisco supervisor, said he has no intention of leaving his new post.
    However, he could face up to a year in jail if he's convicted.
     
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    Denise <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 10:46AM -0800  

    Yes it is a big disappointment to see our lawmakers who support our cause run afoul of the law. We need him! However when one chooses to become a public figure you subject yourself and your laundry to the public at large.
    Domestic violence is not acceptable whoever you are and it does not diminish the act. He is innocent until proven guilty. If guilty he should admit and get the counseling he needs.
    This movement needs supporters who are good for our image if we are going to win at the ballot box in November!
     
    Denise Martellacci
     
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    Andrew Merkel <s..[email protected]> Jan 24 10:14AM -0800  

    If we find one of these places they might already have the full set up. Call a political consultant. They know how to handle this. See what the cost is?
     
    Sent from my iPhone

     

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jan 21 07:43PM -0800  

    As February rapidly approaches and all of the signature gathering campaigns begin to really fire up here in California, I believe it is time that the cannabis movement, for once in our fucking lives, make a firm decision and commit to back one strategy. Too many times our efforts are splintered and failure will be indefinite. I challenge the four groups of proponents that have voter initiatives vying for cannabis resources to come together under one roof for an afternoon, and let us debate the finer points of these efforts. Let us figure out which effort is really best for Californians, and put all of our energy and resources towards making it happen. Otherwise let's just do nothing, as it all will likely be futile anyway.
    I call for a summit of initiative proponents, and activists from all over the State to come together and make a decision, or don't. But for us to continue to wander around with our head up our asses like 3 efforts all entitled "Marijuana Legalization. Initiative Statute" and one "Medical Regulation, Control, and Taxation" effort are all going to have a chance of making the ballot is nuts. It is simply impossible. Most likely if we made that decision today, pooled all of our resources, and used every contact we had that it would still be a severely uphill battle; but at least we would not look like a group of assholes who cannot sit down and "hash it out," for lack of a better term.
    So I am calling for Steve Kubby and his crew, Bill Panzer and his crew, Mike Jolson and His Crew, and Dan Rush/Don Duncan and their crew to meet in a public forum and come to a definitive conclusion of which direction and strategy is best for cannabis users in California. Otherwise I am still gonna stick with FUCK IT and just sit the effort out.
    Let us rent a hotel ballroom, put messages out across the industry, and let people know if they want to have a word in the decision to either show up or shut up. Then I say we take the first ever Cannabis Straw Poll, and whichever initiative wins will be the direction we go. Doesn't that sound awesome? We have a couple of weeks maybe to organize it. Do any (or all) of the big wig policy groups want to give it a shot, or should we just let the monkeys keep fucking the football?
    I personally could give a shit which direction is chosen, as long as it was one direction and we could find unification through consensus. Or FUCK IT…2016 is right around the corner…..
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
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    "William G. Panzer" <s..[email protected]> Jan 22 10:34AM -0800  

    Mickey:
     
    Not a bad idea. I, for one, would be willing to participate.
     
    Bill Panzer
     
     
     
     
    On 1/21/2012 7:43 PM, Mickey Martin wrote:

     

 

 

 

 

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Jan 23 09:17AM -0800  

    I think sf taskforce is also planningto call togther under one hearing
    all four. Idea was floated after last hearing we had dr.frankpresent
    at last taskforce but I think the general feel is that folks want to
    debate these efforts beside eachother.
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    Hal Muskat <s..[email protected]> Jan 23 11:11AM -0800  

    suggest a widely respected moderator skilled in handling egos, issues
    and reality, someone able to help lead this effort forward. I'd suggest
    Terence Hallinan, known to most of you. Or, perhaps someone from The
    Lawyers Cmte for Civil Rights of the SF Bay Area. . .
     
    Thank you Mickey for pushing this forward & thanks to the others for
    your willingness to make it happen!
     
    peace, Hal
     
     
     
     
    On 1/22/12 1:46 PM, Mickey Martin wrote:

     

    Dave Hodges <s..[email protected]> Jan 23 12:06PM -0800  

    I love this idea!
     
    How about we start by gathering a large list of questions to be asked
    of each initiative.
     
    Here's the Cannadome form for people to fill out: http://bit.ly/Cannadome
     
    Best Regards,
    Dave Hodges

     

    Lee Berger <s..[email protected]> Jan 23 04:54PM -0800  

    I admit to not having reviewed the list, but isn't the most important
    question:
     
    Which initiative does polling show has the best chance to win?
     
    Lee Berger, Portland, OR
     
    On 1/23/2012 12:06 PM, Dave Hodges wrote:

     

February 7, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 25 Messages in 5 Topics

 

    El Camino Wellness Center <s..[email protected]> Jan 25 06:10PM -0800  

    I can moderate. But, Ill be bias.
     
    Just trying to add some humor to this!
     
    S
     
     

    Thank you,
     
     
    S. Kumar
    Executive Director
    El Camino Wellness Center
    www,elcaminowellnesscenter.com
    "A Community of Compassion"

     

    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Jan 25 09:29PM -0500  

    Hi,
    Gutwillig is a good choice. I still like a professional speaker like a news person or professor. I don't know where Amanda Reiman stands on the various initiatives but she would be a good choice.
    dave

     

    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Jan 25 09:36PM -0500  

    I'll vote for an unbiased panel of attorneys( Is it possible to find such a group?) . It would be nice if this panel were to be part of an all day solidarity conference, with political operatives discussing fund raising ,organisation and the impact of collaboration and cooperation on winning. It is altogether possible we mat have more than one initiative on the ballot(I'm an optimist) and given my ignorance I wouldn't mind if they both passed.
    Peace
    Dave
     

     

 

 

 

 

 

    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Jan 26 12:26AM -0500  

    IHi;
    If we're talking iconic attorneys how about former Mendocino DA and former southern Santa Barbara Superior Court Research attorney, Joe Allen
    Peace
    Dave

     

 

    "William G. Panzer" <s..[email protected]> Jan 26 08:56AM -0800  

    A Speciale:
     
    Do you think you could get your friend Montel to change his position
    and publicly endorse legalization instead of publicly opposing it?
     
    Bill Panzer
     
     
     
    On 1/26/2012 8:51 AM, a speciale wrote:

     

 

 

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jan 26 08:17AM -0800  

    In the story below (published here: http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/jan/25/medical_marijuana_initiative_cam#comment-173954) Drug War Chronicles writer Phillip Smith calls me a "gadfly" because of my opposition to the UFCW's Medical Marijuana Regulate, Control, and Taxation Act. The fact is that if "gadfly" means "not a sell out and someone with the balls to ask a tough question" then I am guilty as charged.
     
    What I find amazing is that no one else has the nerve to ask the hard questions and nobody wants to talk about what it looks like if MMRCT loses. If one of the members of the "broad coalition" had the nerve to stand up and speak to that, or even show that they had a reasonable response to what is bound to be a contentious battle framed in the ongoing public dialogue about an industry out of control, maybe I would find some support, or at least shut up a bit. But there is no ready response…..If the campaign cannot even address my concerns, how do you expect to handle real opposition?
     
    And this quote kind of kills me: 
     
    "The federal crackdown is largely justified by the charge that California doesn't have a legally regulated distribution system," said Gieringer. "The Obama administration said it wouldn't go after people who were in clear and unambiguous compliance with state law, but we don't have any clear and unambiguous state laws. Some say it's legal, some say it isn't," he explained. "We have to do this to protect ourselves from more federal oppression. We need this for patients, the industry, and law enforcement alike; we need to give them a clear idea of what they can and cannot do."
     
    Largely justified? And to make another point, as my article stated, this Act implements no real regulation. It appoints a board, made up of 16 of 21 pro-cannabis people, and IMO this will be noted in every op-ed and will be called "the monkeys running the zoo" at least one time….I assure you.
     
    On top of this, Mr. Smith, misstates my position, and Dale's quote seems to confirm the miscommunication. I am not against Unions. I grew up the son of a Union man. I love unions. But I also know how they work, and I also believe there is a right to fair competition among unions and that no one union should be allowed to monopolize an industry as vast as cannabis. By cementing into the legislation the definition of "medical marijuana industry union" as only those who are "currently" serving the industry will mean that as long as this legislation is the law of the land the ONLY union will be UFCW. I like UFCW plenty, but I also know that unions, like any other organization, work to create a competitive advantage for themselves and leverage their power to do things like make sure the word "currently" is in legislation they are backing to make sure no one else has a fair shake at those coveted union dues for an entire industry. That is great, if they can
    pull it off. But let us not act like they are doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. 
     
    And I personally am not worried about the "stacking of the board." I think it is GREAT. It works well for me….but that likely will be the problem when the opposition reviews and picks apart the initiative. So I hope you guys have a better answer prepared than "We made sure the bureau had knowledgeable people." If that is your defense then I am sure we are screwed because here is the next tough question…."Which of them are knowledgeable about creating  regulatory control model for anything ever?" much less if a majority of them have this experience or interest in meaningful regulation.
     
    SO I guess these are more "gadfly" questions, but really ones I hope will be looked at and reviewed BEFORE we get our asses handed to us in the fall. 
     
    Here is the original story:
    Medical Marijuana Initiative Campaign Rolling Out in California [FEATURE]
    by Phillip Smith, January 25, 2012, 10:47pm, (Issue #718) 
     
    A broad coalition of California advocates has filed a statewide medical marijuana regulation initiative aimed at ending the years-long confusion over what is and what is not allowed under state law by explicitly allowing sales and legalizing dispensaries statewide absent affirmative local popular votes to ban them. Pending approval of the measure's title and summary by state officials, the campaign is planning to roll out a signature-gathering and fundraising campaign early next month in a bid to put it before the voters in November.
     
    The Medical Marijuana Regulation, Control, and Taxation Act(MMRCTA) would create a state agency, the Bureau of Medical Marijuana Enforcement (BMME), to regulate medical marijuana cultivation and distribution. The bureau's 21-person governing body would include a mix of patients, patient advocates, industryrepresentatives, union representatives, law enforcement, and other stakeholders appointed by the governor or lieutenant governor.
     
    The BMME would be funded by a 2.5% tax on the sale of medical marijuana. Surplus tax revenues would fund emergency medical services, low-income assistance and health services, scientific and educational grant programs, and research into environmentally-sound cultivation practices.
     
    The initiative would require state registration after July 1, 2013 for anyone cultivating, processing, manufacturing, transporting, distributing, or selling medical marijuana for use by others. Patients and caregivers who are growing at home for themselves would be exempt.
     
    The MMRCTA would make it more difficult — but not impossible — for cities and counties to ban dispensaries by declaring that "each city and county shall permit" medical marijuana facilities sufficient to meet local needs, which the initiative defines as at least one dispensary for each 50,000 residents in a county or town of 50,000.
     
    Already existing bans and moratoria, of which there are nearly 200 statewide and growing weekly, would be allowed to continue to exist, but only for a specified period of time. Then they and new proposed local bans could only be enacted through a direct vote via local initiative. Cities would be allowed to maintain reasonable local control over zoning and other regulation of medical marijuana businesses.
     
    The initiative would also outlaw the issuance or use of fraudulent physicians' recommendations. That means it would become an offense to issue a recommendation if the issuer is not a physician.
     
    The measure has some of the biggest players in Golden State medical marijuana politics behind it. Its official proponents are Don Duncan, state director for Americans for Safe Access, the country's leading medical marijuana advocacy group, and Ron Lind, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 5, which represents unionized dispensary workers around the state.
     
    Also backing the initiative campaign, called Californians to Regulate Medical Marijuana, are California NORML, theCoalition for Cannabis Policy Reform, the Sacramento-based California Cannabis Association, and the Emerald Triangle Trade Association. The effort is also endorsed by the national reform groups the Drug Policy Alliance and theMarijuana Policy Project.
     
    But time is tight. The campaign has only until April 20 to gather the more than 500,000 valid signatures it needs to qualify for the ballot, and says it is trying to raise one million dollars by February 9. That will be just the beginning if the initiative is to have a chance to make the ballot.
     
    "To come up with 500,000 valid signatures by April 20 is probably a $2 million proposition," said long-time California NORML head Dale Gieringer, who is also an MMRCTA campaign committee member. "We're a little bit late out of the gate, and we still have to wait for the title and summary to come back, but we have some startup pledges already on hand, so we'll be ready to start circulating petitions early in February."
     
    Even campaign communications consultant Roger Salazar's lower estimate was daunting. "It'll take between one and two million, but with this short time frame, we need these resources on hand," he said. "We need to come up with more like 800-850,000 signatures to be safe; we're looking at around 130% of what is required."
     
    To attract the game-changing big bucks of donors like Peter Lewis or George Soros, who could propel the campaign to success with cash injections, the campaign is going to have to convince them it is worthy. Citing campaign polling, Gieringer thinks they have a shot.
     
    "Regulating medical marijuana is the marijuana issue in California," he said. "Support for the medical marijuana law here polls over 70% and support for uniform state-wide rules polls even higher. So, yes, we're approaching the usual suspects, as well as a couple of others. We know they want to make sure this is a good place to put drug reform money, and we think we'll come out well in comparison with other reform initiatives around the country."
     
    The initiative came together out of widespread frustration with the status quo, said both Gieringer and Salazar. Between heightened federal enforcement and increased local clampdowns, the medical marijuana distribution network is fraying, fraught with anxiety and uncertainty, leaving patients in some areas miles from their medicine and providers even in medical marijuana-friendly locales closing up shop.
     
    "We've seen a lack of state government action to fill in the blanks on Proposition 215 and we've seen the kind of response we've had from the federal government," said Salazar. "Some of the groups that were supporting marijuana legalization decided to try to figure out how to reinforce the voters authorizing use for medical reasons, as well as a way to provide some of the oversight people have been looking for."
     
    "The federal crackdown is largely justified by the charge that California doesn't have a legally regulated distribution system," said Gieringer. "The Obama administration said it wouldn't go after people who were in clear and unambiguous compliance with state law, but we don't have any clear and unambiguous state laws. Some say it's legal, some say it isn't," he explained. "We have to do this to protect ourselves from more federal oppression. We need this for patients, the industry, and law enforcement alike; we need to give them a clear idea of what they can and cannot do."
     
    Given the size and diverse nature of California's medical marijuana and marijuana reform communities, any initiative concerning cannabis is going to be contentious. The intense negative reaction to 2010's Proposition 19 in some sectors of the community is evidence of that, as is the inability of would-be legalizers to settle on any one of the four underfunded legalization initiatives languishing in search of signatures.
     
    The MMRCTA is no exception, and early detractors have emerged. Medical marijuana activist and gadfly Mickey Martin, who was prosecuted by the feds himself over his Tainted, Inc. edibles, used his Cannabis Warrior blog to vociferously object to the creation of a new state agency to regulate the industry, to the inclusion of union representation on that agency's governing board, as well as his presentiment that the board will be stacked with industry insiders, among other things.
     
    "There is strong support for uniform state regulation," Gieringer replied, "but also for local control. If people really don't want dispensaries, they could vote them down, but legal dispensaries are the default. Once this initiative passes, all of the ambiguity about what will be legal will be gone."
     
    As for the make-up of the board, "We made sure the bureau had knowledgeable people, and why shouldn't labor have a place at the table?," Gieringer retorted. "Labor is a key supporter of the initiative," he said. The UFCW is one of the key sponsors. They've been doing a hell of a lot to organize for this initiative and for legal marijuana in general. They've earned their seat at the table," he said.
     
    There will doubtless be plenty more discussion of the merits and deficits of the MMRCTA in the few weeks culminating in the April 20 signature gathering deadline, but this looks like a serious effort being run by some serious players in California. The question becomes just how serious the big money funders think it is, and what they think its chances of success are.
    Sacramento, CA
    United States
     
     
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
    http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
    http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

     

    Mikki Norris <s..[email protected]> Jan 25 03:49PM -0800  

    Try using the term "personal use" as people have all kinds of reasons why
    they use cannabis….
     
    Mikki
     

     

    "Dr. David Bearman" <s..[email protected]> Jan 25 08:31PM -0500  

    Hi
    Language is important. Adult personal use sounds good better than recreational and also better than social use, we must avoid using the language of trhe neoprohibitionists.
    peace'
    —- Dave
     
    Hodges <s..s@a2c2.us> wrote:
    Dave

     

    Lee Berger <s..s@a2c2.us> Jan 25 08:30PM -0800  

    I agree with Bill Panzer's formulation: 'social use'
     
    Lee Berger, Portland
     
    On 1/25/2012 2:02 PM, Dave Hodges wrote:

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Jan 26 12:14AM -0800  

    nice point mikki but my fear around personal use? Is it kind of lends
    itself towards how much personal use ? As in personal use guidelines?
    Personal amounts ? I feel strongly that there is medical need and
    theraputic use and that they are different. But both enjoyable without
    harmful side effects … Happy new year mikki
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    David Malmo-Levine <s..s@a2c2.us> Jan 25 06:05PM -0800  

    Still, other people use the word recreation and we should understand what
    the word really means. To differentiate between medicinal use and some
    other type of use is to leave room for stigma, and the division of our
    people into "legit" and "not legit" categories. By understanding
    recreation/social/personal pot use as a subset of medicine everyone in our
    community enjoys the protection of the law, and by claiming all herbal
    medicine as the domain of ordinary (non-doctor) people (such as Henry the
    8th did with the herbalist's charter back in the 1540's) we can counter the
    CODEX herb monopoly/over-regulation plans of our rulers.
     
    On 2012-01-25 5:35 PM, "Dr. David Bearman" <s..s@a2c2.us> wrote:
     
    Hi
    Language is important. Adult personal use sounds good better than
    recreational and also better than social use, we must avoid using the
    language of trhe neoprohibitionists.
    peace'
    —- Dave
     
    Hodges <s..s@a2c2.us> wrote:
    Dave
     

     

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..s@a2c2.us> Jan 25 11:52PM -0800  

    pls post widely . To comitees from taskforce? If other comittee
    members could help? I think we also need to consider impact of
    losangles gentle? ban.
     
     
    CITY PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
    THURSDAY, JANUARY 26, 2012, after 8:30 A.M.
    VAN NUYS CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER 2ND FLOOR
    14410 SYLVAN STREET, VAN NUYS, CALIFORNIA 91401
     
    5.
    SPECIAL ITEM
    ENV-2011-3306-CE
    Plan Area: Citywide
    Council Districts: All
    Expiration Date: N/A
    Appeal Status: N/A
     
    PUBLIC HEARING
    Location: CITYWIDE
     
    Proposed Project:
    An ordinance proposed by the City Attorney amending Article 5.1 of Chapter
    IV of the Los Angeles Municipal Code in order to implement recent
    appellate court decisions concerning regulation of medical marijuana,
    including the ruling issued in Pack v. Superior Court, 199 Cal.App.4th
    1070 (2011). (The Commission may recess into Closed Session pursuant to
    Government Code Section 54956.9(a) in order to confer with its legal
    counsel in relation to: pending litigation entitled, MJ Collectives
    Litigation; Americans for Safe Access et al. v. City of Los Angeles, Los
    Angeles Superior Court (“LASC”), Lead Case No. BC 433942 (and all related
    actions); The People of the State of California v. Natural Ways Always, et
    al./ Natural Ways Always, Inc. v. City, et al., LASC Case No. BC 460799;
    and the effect of recent appellate court decisions concerning regulation
    of medical marijuana.)
    Requested Actions:
    1. Adopt the report prepared by the City Attorney entitled “Report Re:
    Proposed Ordinance Amending Article 5.1 of Chapter IV of The Los Angeles
    Municipal Code To Implement Recent Appellate Court Decisions Concerning
    Regulation of Medical Marijuana, Including Pack v. Superior Court, 199
    Cal.App.4th 1070 (2011)” (City Attorney Report), as the report of the City
    Planning Commission on the subject.
    2. Recommend that the City Council Determine that the ordinance is exempt
    under the California Environmental Quality Act, for the reasons set forth
    in the CEQA Narrative and draft Notice of Exemption attached as
    Attachments 6 and 7, respectively, to the City Attorney Report.
    3. Recommend that the City Council Direct that the Department of City
    Planning file the final Notice of Exemption with the County Clerk
    immediately after the ordinance is approved and passed in final by the
    City Council.
    4. Adopt the Findings and Recommendation Pursuant To City Charter § 556
    and §558(b)(2) attached as Attachment 8 to the City Attorney Report.
    5. Recommend to the City Council adoption of the draft ordinance attached
    as Attachment 1 to the City Attorney Report.
    Applicant: City of Los Angeles
    CITY PLANNING COMMISSION 4 JANUARY 26, 2012
    Recommended Actions:
    1. Adopt the City Attorney Report as the report of the City Planning
    Commission on the subject.
    2. Recommend that the City Council Determine that the ordinance is exempt
    under the California Environmental Quality Act, for the reasons set forth
    in the CEQA Narrative and draft Notice of
    Exemption attached as Attachments 6 and 7, respectively, to the City
    Attorney Report.
    3. Recommend that the City Council Direct that the Department of City
    Planning file the final Notice of Exemption with the County Clerk
    immediately after the ordinance is approved and passed in final
    by the City Council.
    4. Adopt the Findings and Recommendation Pursuant To City Charter § 556
    and §558(b)(2) attached
    as Attachment 8 to the City Attorney Report.
    5. Recommend to the City Council adoption of the draft ordinance attached
    as Attachment 1 to the
    City Attorney Report.
    Staff: Terry Kaufmann-Macias (213) 978-8120
     
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Degé Coutee
    Executive & Program Director
    Patient Advocacy Network
     
    @PAN4Compassion
    www.CannabisSavesLives.org
    (323) 334-5282
     
    PAN is a charitable 501(c)(3) organization
     
     
     
     

    Shona Gochenaur
    Executive Director
    Axis of Love SF
    http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
    http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

     

    David Malmo-Levine <s..s@a2c2.us> Jan 24 04:03PM -0800  

    > LOL. I can assure you, other than putting the idea forward, I will have
    > nothing to do with the debate process.
     
    You have a lot to do with confusing people as to what happens during that
    process.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    > I am in no way a non-bias person, and would never subject myself to trying
    > to find objectivity this late in the game.
     
    Nobody is accusing you of having a bias. I'm accusing you of
    misrepresenting the facts and then refusing to print retractions after
    someone corrects you.
     
     
     
     
     
     
    I am hoping someone else from the community would pick up that role. Some
    have said Terrence Hallinan may be a good person. I have no idea who that
    would be. Nice to know that they are letting the great DMV speak for the
    campaign. Too funny.
     
     
    That's "DML" … you will eventually figure out my real initials … when
    the wine model passes, all you'll be known for is the guy who told fibs
    about the people who legalized cannabis in your state.