Tag Archives: Michael Backes

October 10, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 16 Messages in 7 Topics

 

    rev b Baker <s..[email protected]> Oct 10 09:10AM -0600  

    I am a certified paralegal and have a 2yr degree in the law field (plus 2 yrs experience in a law office one as head paralegal), working on my 4yr and have obtained enterance to law school for my jd, im glad to help and have a ton of research for the attorney of the case!
     
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    Sincerely, rev. brandon baker of faith Ministry
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    Angela Bacca <s..[email protected]> Oct 10 09:47AM -0700  

    Are you getting these as well? Everyone should respond back on WHY they
    aren't donating to Obama's campaign (see below).
     

    Angela Bacca, MBA
    (phone#-removed)
    aeiouyyyy.com
    Twitter: @AngelaBacca
    Facebook.com/angelabacca
     
     
     
     
     
    I have not donated this election cycle because I have not been happy with
    many of the President's policies after election– specifically his flippant
    mocking and disregard of medical marijuana. I have Crohn's Disease and it
    is the only thing that has helped me– yet the President's policies (which
    were worse than his predecessor's) towards medical marijuana would sooner
    put be in the line of danger by forcing me to purchase my medicine on the
    black market or worse– send me to prison.
     
    Respectfully, I must keep my donation in case I have to pay for BAIL or
    LAWYER'S FEES because the President I supported doesn't support me.
     
    I hope someone actually reads this and gives actual merit to it, I may not
    live in a swing state but I think I make a valid point.
     
    Don't ask me for money again.
     

    Angela Bacca, MBA
    (phone#-removed)
    aeiouyyyy.com
    Twitter: @AngelaBacca
    Facebook.com/angelabacca
     
    On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Ann Marie Habershaw, BarackObama.com <
     

    Angela Bacca, MBA
    (phone#-removed)
    aeiouyyyy.com
    Twitter: @AngelaBacca
    Facebook.com/angelabacca

     

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 10 09:09AM -0700  

    Source:
    http://weedactivist.com/is-rescheduling-the-answer-we-are-looking-for/
     
    Is rescheduling the answer we are looking
    for?<http://weedactivist.com/is-rescheduling-the-answer-we-are-looking-for/>
     
    October 10, 2012 *in Mass
    Incarceration<http://weedactivist.com/category/mass-incarceration/>
    , Medical Cannabis <http://weedactivist.com/category/medical-cannabis/>, Reform
    Groups <http://weedactivist.com/category/reform-groups/>, Weed
    Freedom<http://weedactivist.com/category/weed-freedom/>
    *
     
    <http://weedactivist.com/is-rescheduling-the-answer-we-are-looking-for/gw-pharm-2-2/>
     
    According to Americans for Safe Access Chief Counsel, Joe Elford, “medical
    marijuana patients will finally get their day in court.” The group will
    present to the US Court of Appeal scientific evidence proving beyond a
    reasonable doubt that cannabis does indeed have medical value.
     
    As with any court case and legal decision there is bound to be a winner and
    a loser. If the government wins (again) then the court will decide that
    cannabis has no medical value. That seems like a far stretch to make, but
    we have not made it through decades of disastrous prohibition without lies
    and misinformation, so I would not be a complete surprise. But the other
    option, the court deciding to reschedule cannabis as a medicine, could be a
    more interesting dilema for the weed community.
     
    Here is an article from the Wall Street Journal on the court case:
     
    Appeals Court to Consider Benefits of Medical MarijuanaBy Sam Favate
     
    Source:
    http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2012/10/08/appeals-court-to-consider-theraputic-value-of-medical-marijuana/
     
    For the first time in 20 years, a federal court will review scientific
    evidence on the therapeutic value of marijuana, as a legal challenge by a
    group of doctors, medical professionals and patients makes its way to the
    U.S. court of appeals in Washington, D.C., next week.
     
    Americans for Safe Access <http://safeaccessnow.org/> is hoping the
    challenge will change the government’s classification of marijuana from a
    dangerous drug with no medical benefits, the Guardian
    reported<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/07/medical-marijuana-advocates-lawsuit-us-drugs?newsfeed=true>.
    Other groups, such as the American Medical Association, the American
    College of Physicians, the American Nurses Association, the Federation of
    American Scientists and the American Academy of Family Physicians support
    either medical access to marijuana or its reclassification to one that has
    a medical benefit.
     
    “Medical marijuana patients are finally getting their day in court,” Joe
    Elford, chief counsel for ASA, told the Guardian. “This is a rare
    opportunity for patients to confront politically motivated decision-making
    with scientific evidence of marijuana’s medical efficacy.”
     
    Last year, the Drug Enforcement Agency rejected the ASA’s petition to
    reschedule marijuana, saying there wasn’t substantial evidence the drug
    should be removed from schedule 1. The DEA cited a five-year-old assessment
    from the Department of Health and Human Services that said there was no
    consensus in the medical community on the medical applications of marijuana.
     
    In its reply brief<http://safeaccessnow.org/downloads/ASA_v_DEA_Reply_Brief.pdf>,
    the ASA says the criteria used by the DEA and HHS to determine scheduling
    are flawed.
     
    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit will hear arguments in the
    case on Oct. 16.
     
    So the question I ask now is the same question I have been asking for many
    moons, “If we win, then what is next?”
     
    Does anyone believe that if cannabis is rescheduled to the equivalent of
    Vicodin (Schedule 2), or even Marinol aka Dronabinol (Schedule 3) that
    patients will be able to grow a garden of cannabis to use as a medicine?
    Does anyone believe that the current means of access that we have in
    limited states would continue with little to no changes in the system? Do
    we believe that after cannabis is turned over to the “bringing a new drug
    to market” folks that a.) raw cannabis will be an option; b.) that smoked
    cannabis will be an option; and/or c.) that anyone but a heavily licensed
    corporation with the money to jump through the hoops
    of government regulation will be able to produce and provide cannabis for
    medical use?
     
    Those are all very fair questions. Of course it is necessary to reschedule
    cannabis as a medicine, and maybe, if cannabis is rescheduled, taken out of
    the hands of the people, and the current quasi-legal systems in limited
    states are shut down in favor of pharmaceutical weed, the cannabis
    community can begin to focus more on ending the mass incarceration of our
    neighbors for weed, and focus our fight on ending prohibition for adult use
    once and for all. Maybe if our hand is forced to quit pretending everyone
    is sick to grow weed because the only way to get medical weed might be from
    an approved government overseen resource, people will get back to the basis
    of this battle for cannabis freedom….freedom.
     
    Medicalization is not real freedom. It is actually the second most strict
    form of prohibition. Think about it.
     
    So while I see many ion the community rejoicing this opportunity to bring
    cannabis to the scheduled drug table, I just do not see what all of the
    excitement is about. To me, I think watching the industry that has
    developed for patients and providers evolve into a shell of itself overrun
    by big business is very sad. I think rescheduling without adult use
    legalization leaves us MUCH more vulnerable than we are right now. While it
    will allow for patients in areas with no access to possibly have access to
    some form of non-smoked cannabis medicine, likely extracted in some
    form, it may also be a sea change for the hundreds of thousands of
    patients who now do have safe and convenient access to a variety of whole
    plant and smokeable medicines.
     
    So what is the answer? The answer is adult use legalization. It always has
    been. We have focused a lot of time, energy and resources pushing for
    rescheduling to justify the medicalization of cannabis, and somewhere in
    that battle we have forgot that rescheduling does not really do much to
    solve the actual problem of taking people to jail for weed. In fact, it
    could increase substantially the people going to jail for weed, as the
    companies that invest an average of $1.3 billion to bring a new drug to
    market will likely demand stricter control on the ground to protect their
    market share. If any person or group is truly for patients having more
    access to less expensive cannabis, then legalization is a no brainer. If
    people who continually preach about the safety and efficacy of cannabis
    really believe that we need a whole new pharmaceutical system in pace to
    assure cannabis is safe, then I am not sure we are talking about the same
    plant.
     
    But maybe I am wrong. Maybe cannabis will be rescheduled and the government
    will concede that people should be allowed to grow their own, purchase it
    from a locally run dispensary or collective, and that everyone should blast
    a fat dab. Who knows? What I do know is that I am no nearly as excited as
    some who are out taking the usual premature victory lap.

     

    David Fiedler <s..[email protected]> Oct 10 01:29PM -0700  

    Very well said, and totally agreed!
     

     

 

    David Malmo-Levine <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 05:50PM -0700  

    As well, is this article from 1979 also bunk?
     
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii(phone#-removed)0253
     
     
     

     

 

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 10 07:45AM -0700  

    So the flax idea does bring up an interesting anecdote. Would people smoke
    flax if it were high-CBD? Would people go to such great lengths to grow
    flax for the CBD if it were illegal? If flax, or even hemp, took the wind
    out of the CBD sails by finding an alternative resource for CBD would
    "CBD-rich" cannabis still be selling for top dollar? Interesting concepts.
     
    Weed Activist
     

     

 

 

 

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Oct 10 01:06AM -0700  

    http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/politics/news/the-10-best-politicians-on-pot-20121009

     

October 9, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 13 Messages in 3 Topics

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 05:00PM -0700  

    http://northridge.patch.com/articles/city-council-finalizes-ban-on-medical-marijuana-storefronts
    any support of ”limited safe access ” to suite one business lobby , doesn't
    come from authentic Patient positive position, every collective deserves a
    fair public hearing to its true comunity benefit, lawsuits will be filed,
    I'm sure.

     

    David Malmo-Levine <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 10:47PM -0700  

    My CBD two cents:
     
     
    http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2012/09/14/CBD-Expensive-Very-Expensive-or-Free
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 10:10PM -0700  

    Not knocking anything. Respect the project. Asking simple questions about
    the situation on the ground. Has the interpretation of things resulted in
    the watering down of the real meaning or truth? Not the project, but the
    implementation. I think it is a fair question given the focus put on CBD.
     
    If Michael was right then high CBD doses like that are not achievable with
    casual smoking of CBD rich strains, correct? The simple point of the
    article was to ask questions. I have gotten some great information as a
    result. It is much appreciated.
     
    Weed Activist #23,479

     

 

 

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 08:34AM -0700  

    Dr. Frankel,
     
    I love your response; and I will take that bet.
     
    I did not mean to come off as such a cynic, but I also do believe that many
    are using the CBD phenomena to gain a competitive advantage in the
    marketplace. If you re-read my piece, I mostly agree with you. But I also
    think that there will be a much lesser focus on CBD by cannabis aficionados
    in the future.
     
    Yes…CBD has, and always will be in cannabis. No disputing that. Also no
    question it has therapeutic value. The argument is does it have as much
    therapeutic value as people are giving it focus and charging for CBD rich
    products? Or, is it possible this has also been exploited as a marketing
    gimmick, like many good intentioned things in this community?
     
    Only time will tell….I respect your opinion on this matter and appreciate
    your feedback. Thank you.
     
    Weed Activist #23,479
     
     

     

 

    David Malmo-Levine <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 10:49AM -0700  

    News flash!
     
    CBD – not just from cannabis anymore!
     
    For those of you scared that CBD-rich cannabis strains will dilute their
    THC-rich cannabis strain options to the point of breeding THC out of the
    plant entirely, FLAX has come to the rescue!
     
    http://www.freedomisgreen.com/getting-the-flax-straight-about-cbd/
     
     
     
     

     

 

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 03:26PM -0700  

    Dr. Frankel says the smartest thing yet:
     
    *"The issue is, that we really are still largely in the dark as to what the
    best dose of the cannabinoids are for various conditions. Most of the pain
    and neurological conditions I deal with, are best treated with both THC and
    CBD and the other 400+ molecules in the plant."*
    *
    *
    This is where I think many have overplayed their hand, and there are a lot
    of people making definitive statements in order to increase market values.
    That was my initial concern. And that those possibly inflated market values
    could result in breeding trends that retard psychoactive properties. I
    think anyone who watches this market sees things like this happen. You
    know, like when the entire world seemed to start growing Blue Dream.
     
    I will say that this conversation has enlightened me more to the CBD
    situation, which I do appreciate.
     
    Weed Activist 23,479
     
     
     

     

 

    christine wagner <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 01:45PM -0700  

    Greetings Cannabis Community.
     
     
    As you know, I have been sending out announcements about the
    first-of-its-kind in California – a continuing education course for
    nurses that has been approved by the California Board of Registered
    Nursing entitled "The Endocannabinoid System & Cannabis: What Nurses Need to Know" (flyer attached).  Our inaugural course, which is
    sponsored by 501(c)(3) non-profit organization Patients Out of Time and
    taught by its Co-Founder and President, Mary Lynn Mathre, RN, MSN, CARN, is being held on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 at the David Brower Center in Berkeley.  
     
    As so aptly put by Mary Lynn in this recent video clip from Patients Out
    of Time, it is the medical community's professional obligation to
    educate itself about the body's endocannabinoid system and the emerging
    science which identifies cannabis as beneficial in maintaining and
    regulating that system.  Here's the link to the clip:
     

     
    Please let your nurse colleagues, friends and family know about the course on October 23rd, as we still have seats to fill.  Nurses who attend earn 6 contact hours towards their continuing education requirements.  To facilitate the participation of those just learning of the event, the original course cost of $140.00 has been extended until October 15th.  All proceeds from the course benefit the work of Patients Out of Time, whose mission is to educate health care professionals and the public on the medicinal benefits of cannabis.  Please go to http://www.medicalcannabis.com for more information.  
     
     
    We ask that you please take a few moments today to encourage or sponsor a nurse you know to attend.         
     
    With gratitude and blessings,
     
    Christine
     
     
    Christine Wagner
    Attorney at Law
     
    California Coordinator
    Patients Out of Time
    (phone#-removed)

     

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Oct 09 02:49PM -0700  

    Can layman attend/audit course? Thanks for putting this together :-)

     

October 8, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 14 Messages in 4 Topics

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 07 06:49PM -0700  

    source: http://weedactivist.com/cbd-myth-or-miracle/
     
    CBD: Myth or Miracle? <http://weedactivist.com/cbd-myth-or-miracle/>
     
    October 7, 2012 *in I Like Weed<http://weedactivist.com/category/i-like-weed/>
    , Medical Cannabis <http://weedactivist.com/category/medical-cannabis/>,
    Messaging <http://weedactivist.com/category/messaging/>*
     
    <http://weedactivist.com/cbd-myth-or-miracle/cbd-1/>
     
    The real answer is NEITHER.
     
    The “high-CBD” craze is alive and kicking and it is worth examining the
    real value of CBDs, both as a medicine and as a marketing tool.
     
    CBD is a non-psychoactive cannabinoid in weed that is thought to help with
    certain afflictions, such as convulsion and inflammation. It is thought to
    interact with the CB2 receptors in the body vs. the brain. Here is how it
    is explained by the folks at Project CBD <http://projectcbd.org/>:
     
    Cannabidiol —CBD— is a compound in Cannabis that has medical effects but
    does not make people feel “stoned” and actually counters some of the
    effects of THC. After decades in which only high-THC Cannabis was
    available, CBD-rich strains are now being grown by and for medical users.
     
    The reduced psychoactivity of CBD-rich Cannabis may make it an appealing
    treatment option for patients seeking anti-inflammatory, anti-pain,
    anti-anxiety and/or anti-spasm effects without disconcerting euphoria or
    lethargy.
     
    So you can kind of see how it is being sold….”We smoke weed that doesn’t
    really get you high because we are real medical patients;” and therein lies
    the rub. Where is that line drawn between real medical relief and this
    movements desire to be accepted so much that we begin to breed low-thc
    strains just to prove we are legit? Is there really such a
    huge inflammation problem that we must focus so much time and energy on
    these “CBD-rich” strains?
     
    Maybe and maybe not. Our movement has a tendency to overplay our hand and
    exploit loose theory as hard fact; and will stop at nothing to capitalize
    off of any little phenomenon. I have seen more gimmicks become commonplace
    in this industry than I care to review, such as the overuse of the term
    “organic,” or the phase where every strain was “kush” something. Purple
    weed has come, gone, and come back again. The nomenclature seems to shift
    with the wind, as well. Here in Cali, we have gone from cannabis clubs, to
    dispensaries, to patient member closed-loop collectives and may find our
    way back to dispensary again before it is all over.
     
    The point is that I have watched our movement evolve over many years and
    have seen organizations overplay certain things to the point of
    irrelevance. Does CBD have some medical value? Sure it does. Is it the
    miracle substance that everyone is making it out to be? That is tricky.
     
    No one knows for sure how CBD works, either on its own or in conjunction
    with other cannabinoids. It is a great marketing tool for some, and also a
    great justification for our opposition. I mean, we must be legitimate
    medical providers if we are selling weed with low THC, right? Maybe. I am
    not sure if that argument has really gained any traction or changed any
    minds in the halls of justice.
     
    What I do know is that this CBD-rich culture is encouraging the breeding of
    low-THC strains in an effort to find the mysterious and elusive CBD. I know
    that to me, most CBD-rich medicine is hay and not enjoyable to me
    personally. Now I have plenty of medical issues. My rebuilt right knee has
    plenty of inflammation at the end of a long day, yet I still do not feel
    better after smoking CBD-rich meds over a high-THC strain. To each their
    own, and I am sure we are all different in our physical make-up; but the
    question is still valid…”Is there too much focus on high-CBDs?”
     
    I think there is. I think if we did some real soul searching we may agree
    that MOST people use cannabis for the euphoric properties. I think that
    most cannabis users enjoy the buzz they get from good weed. I have asked a
    bunch of activist the question, “If weed did not get you high would you
    smoke it?” 99.9% have said “No.” Furthermore, would you risk a decade in
    prison to grow weed that did not get you high? I guess if you are getting
    four racks a pound for it you might, but if it was just for you? Would you
    risk prison to grow weed that did not get you high?
     
    I will make a bet to anyone that 5-years from now, when weed is legal for
    adult enjoyable use. NOBODY will be talking about CBD-rich weed.
     
    Now I am not saying CBD has no value by any means. I just think. like most
    things in this industry, we make more of things than they actually are in
    an effort to gain position or income. One might even say the entire
    “medical cannabis” deal is being overplayed, and that real patients are
    suffering because they are being lumped in with the quasi-recreational
    culture that has taken over the medical industry, leaving many mainstream
    physicians unwilling to participate. But that may be a conversation for
    another day.
     
    As for me, I would strongly encourage you to not get up in this craze and
    to continue to grow weed with THC in it….Most of us still love THC.

     

 

 

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 06:18PM -0700  

    Interesting concept. Thanks for the input. I will take that into
    consideration.
     
    Weed Acrivist

     

    Fred Gardner <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 08:10PM -0700  

    If the "Weed Activist" is the Mick who says he respects my stuff, he should read it before knocking it. The Project CBD line has always been "Struggle Against CBD Opportunism."
     
    Fred G.
     
     
     
     
     
     
    On Oct 8, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Michael Backes wrote:
     

     

    "andrew garret" <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 06:56PM -0700  

    WAS VICTOR LICATA GUILTY OF MURDER — The answer is NO
     
    DID YOU KNOW
     
    — That there was a serial Axe murderer operating in the Tampa area at the
    time?
     
    — That the Licata family was NOT the only Tampa family cut down by an Axe
    murderer?
     
    — That one of the other families slain by the serial Axe murderer was the
    Rowell Family –same last name as the author of — On the Trail of
    Marihuana, the Weed of Madness”?
     
    — That Victor Licata (to his dying day) DENIED that he had ever used
    Marihuana? And that there was never a scratch of evidence to even suggest
    that he ever had?
     
    — That much of the (alleged) evidence against Victor Licata was
    fabricated and so fake it wouldn’t have stood the light of day in a
    courtroom?
     
    COMING SOON — VICTOR LICATA – A RUSH TO JUDGEMENT: Hopefully in book
    form, but probably up on the Internet
     
    antique andy
     
    NOTE IF ANYONE LIVES IN OKLAHOMA PLEASE MAKE CONTACT, NOW forming a pro
    Cannabis voters league.
     
     
     
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    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 07:22AM -0700  

    Source: http://weedactivist.com/new-direction-for-norml/
     
    New direction for NORML? <http://weedactivist.com/new-direction-for-norml/>
     
    October 8, 2012 *in Messaging <http://weedactivist.com/category/messaging/>
    , Reform Groups <http://weedactivist.com/category/reform-groups/>, Weed
    Activism <http://weedactivist.com/category/weed-activism/>, Weed
    Freedom<http://weedactivist.com/category/weed-freedom/>
    *
    <http://weedactivist.com/new-direction-for-norml/st-pierre-1/>
     
    Wait…Are you guys serious?
     
    Celebstoner.com reported last
    night<http://www.celebstoner.com(phone#-removed)/news/celebstoner-news/norml-conference-followed-by-shake-up.html>
    that
    NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre was fired yesterday by the NORML
    Board of Directors. Here is an excerpt from the story:
     
    After making the final speech of the 41st-annual NORML
    Conference<http://www.celebstoner.com(phone#-removed)/news/marijuana-news/normls-kuhn-likes-colorado-ballot-best.html>
    in
    Los Angeles at the Omni Hotel on Saturday, during which he said, “I’ve hit
    a nadir with NORML,” executive director Allen St.
    Pierre<http://norml.org/about/item/allen-f-st-pierre?category_id=33>
    was
    fired by the Board of Directors, CelebStoner has learned.
     
    Though no announcement has been made, St. Pierre’s absence from the
    post-conference party at The Hemp Museum was conspicuous.
     
    St. Pierre has been battling with a contentious board for several years.
    The recent takeover of the board by Paul
    Kuhn<http://www.celebstoner.com(phone#-removed)/news/marijuana-news/normls-kuhn-likes-colorado-ballot-best.html>
    left
    St. Pierre more vulnerable.
     
    I am not sure if anyone saw this as a big surprise. When you are the leader
    of an organization that is consistently criticized for lack of leadership
    and vision there is a pretty big problem. Allen St. Pierre has led NORML to
    the brink of collapse and has had very little real accomplishments to show
    for his 7 years of work as the Executive Director. Of course the entire
    reason for NORML’s ineffectiveness is not completely Allen St. Pierre’s
    fault, but his leadership also has brought little to nothing to the table
    for them.
     
    The big question now is who will replace Allen, and even more, will they be
    capable of making NORML more dynamic, innovative, and effective? Is there a
    person out there who can lead the charge towards cannabis freedom without
    drama, hurt feelings, and dissension in the ranks?
     
    As NORML looks to replace Allen my hope would be that they do not just grab
    the first guy standing around the water cooler to fill that role. Cannabis
    activists, and NORML supporters deserve a real change. Not just in person,
    but also in philosophy, direction, and the way they understand the social
    and political environment that we are leading this battle in.
     
    The word on the street is that NORML is flat broke. Celebstoner states that
    they have “long run deficits,” as MPP and DPA have received most of the
    reform funding over the past years. So obviously just bringing on some
    high-priced empty suit to fill the role is not the answer. It seems that
    NORML will have to figure out how to run a more lean and powerful team if
    they want to compete. They will have to begin to put their resources into
    more strategic planning and implementation of reform campaigns, rather than
    over-payed leadership that is little more than a showpiece for the
    organization.
     
    But maybe we have come to a fork in the road. Maybe the folks at NORML, and
    MPP, and DPA, and LEAP, and SSDP, and all of the other organizations
    fighting for the same reform dollars need to look deeply at their
    organizations and ask themselves if we can continue to afford to split up
    the resources to pull in so many directions when we are fighting for the
    same thing? I think the community is tired of having so many different
    groups sending fundraising emails, throwing fundraising events, asking for
    donations and using those resources for vastly different, and mostly
    lackluster, efforts to end the drug war and to promote cannabis freedom.
     
    NORML could consider merging with another reform group to combine forces
    and create a more powerful organization; or better yet, could we merge all
    of the organizations into a cannabis super power, like the NRA or
    something? Maybe, but doubtful.
     
    My guess is that the NORML Board will appoint one of its own and continue
    down the path of ineffectiveness. There is very little fire in the belly of
    the folks at NORML these days, so it would not surprise me to see them opt
    for the status quo. I would hope not, but 40 years of history tell us
    differently. Maybe they can hire Keith Stroup back! Oh wait…he never went
    anywhere did he?
     
    My opinion, as a lowly weed activist, is that I would like to see a real
    change in direction and the way NORML does business. I would like to see
    less focus on patting themselves on the back, and more interest in
    attacking our enemies’ position with agressive tactics and messaging.
    Sitting back throwing a conference in a different weed city every year and
    “answering the phones” is not progress. It has become more of a pageant
    than a march for cannabis freedom.
     
    I am not sure who would be the greatest person to fill the role of NORML
    Executive Director. Only time will tell. I just hope it is someone that I
    can find inspirational, and whose conviction and dedication may actually
    lead us to ending cannabis prohibition. I do not think that is too much to
    ask.

     

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 09:03AM -0700  

    UPDATE from NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano:
     
    This report is not true. Allen St. Pierre remains NORML's Executive
    Director. There have been no changes made regarding the NORML leadership.
    Only a vote by the Board could institute such changes and no such vote has
    taken place. It is unfortunate that Steve's speculation is causing major
    confusion among those who follow this issue and NORML.
     
    Paul Armentano
    NORML Deputy Director
     
     
     
    *Apparently Steve Bloom from Celebstoner.com got his cart out in front of
    his horse on this one….again. But there has also been no denying that St.
    Pierre will be fired at the next Board Meeting. In two statements from
    NORML Board members there has been NO word that NORML does indeed intend to
    go forward with St. Pierre as ED.*
     

     

    Norm Kent <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 01:26PM -0400  

    Dear friends,
     
    Having seen the posts this morning concerning Allen St. Pierre, the Executive Director of NORML, I am writing in my capacity as the Vice Chair of NORML.
     
    Please post this for the sake of accuracy. Sometimes a lie can get half way around the world before the truth catches up with it.
     
    The purpose of this communication is to verify and affirm responses posted to each of you by Paul Armentano, our Deputy Director, and Keith Saunders, one of our Board members.
     
    Very simply, as of this date, Allen St. Pierre has not been terminated as the Executive Director of NORML. At this time, there is no guarantee that this will ever happen and the publication is premature and inaccurate.
     
    Since this matter has gone public, I believe the public is owed an explanation as to what is transpiring.
     
    First, in-between its board meetings, the Executive Committee of NORML has the full authority to act for the Board.
     
    Second, at the conclusion of this year's successful NORML conference in LA, members of the Executive Committee met with Mr. St. Pierre and advised him that at our next Board meeting in Key West on November 28, 2012 the following motion will be presented to the Board:
     
    "Shall the Board of Directors approve appointing a search committee for a new executive director?"
     
    Third, the Chair, Paul Kuhn, asked Mr. St. Pierre if he was in accord with this motion, and Mr. St. Pierre summarily and demonstratively rejected the proposal, saying he had no intention of resigning from NORML, and that he had never published comments to Mr. Kuhn or others offering to do so.
     
    Fourth, in fact, Mr. St. Pierre, who himself is a member of the Board of Directors, suggested that Paul Kuhn should resign from his position as Chair, and he would ask the Board for such a vote.
     
    Therefore, as it stands now, to be as fair and honest as possible to everyone, there will be at least two countervailing motions on the table for the Board of Directors at its next meeting, one asking for a search committee to seek out a new ED, and one asking to remove the Chair, and maybe even members of the Executive Committee.
     
    It is not my goal to wash our dirty linens in public, but it is also not my desire to see false information disseminated with the damaging residual consequences that brings forth. So I publish these comments to bring people up to date on actually what has happened and what may happen.
     
    So there we have it.
     
    Thank you.
     
    Norm Kent,
    Vice Chair,
    NORML

     

 

 

    Weed Activist <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 11:16AM -0700  

    Thank you for that clarification.
     

     

 

    "Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur" <s..[email protected]> Oct 08 12:47AM -0700  

    Michelle, my good lord, what day was this? Our members have witnessed so
    much in the last Two weeks, it is not fair that our little family nxt door
    to SPARC now feel frighteend, we've held bingo for elders for yrs and
    never felt like we needed to worry, and something is going on, next door
    that's got Erich secret service agents on edge, but that's Erich business
    but he has made it my business by not even caring to respond to me, his
    direct.neighbors inquiry or concern? How could this happen, to you? We all
    know me and Erich aren't bossom buddy s, far from it, however he has sheild
    himself with you and Mikes historic connects to our city, how could he let
    this go? I'm sorry this happend and while you and I may have issues, I care
    about you and you shouldn't be treated like this nor should any Patient,
    his guards are professional trained, some I think prior sfpd, what's going
    on that a guard would follow a Patient or touch their person. Erich
    whatever is going on? you need to chill the Fuck out and show some respect,
    now! Patients aren't going to put up with this ….Mr.cannbe this? Cannot
    be. And Patient advocate s if you don't know what cannbe was/is read david
    downs article, and cannabusiness folks if you don't know, wow, you shoud,
    restrictive permitting, monopoly building empire , just a start…but don't
    take my word do your own research.
    On Oct 7, 2012 10:22 AM, "Michelle Aldrich" <s..[email protected]> wrote:

     

August 28, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 6 Messages in 5 Topics

    Tim Perkins <s..[email protected]> Aug 28 08:30AM -0700  

    Starchild, if that is your real name, I know what Libertarian is. So
    does Carl Rove, he is one, regardless of what he's registered. Parties
    are not what they espouse to be, ever. These days it's about branding,
    not philosophy. No person or party becomes viable until compromised by
    money. I stand by my statement and in good company.

     

    Tim Perkins <s..[email protected]> Aug 28 05:28PM -0700  

    Furthermore, Grover Norquist, gets his ideology from libertarianism.
    That's where his "Taxpayer Protection Pledge" came from, for one… I
    suggest you look around and see who's really in the tent before you go
    espousing what you think is the purpose of the tent. Libertarians are
    just another cheesy generic branding for the same good ol boy BS.
     
    Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

     

    Brenda Sherman <s..[email protected]> Aug 28 02:53PM -0700  

    I Used to have Faith in our Government & It's systems until I was faced with facts…This is just 1 example of what's really going on…What chance do we have preserving the integrity of a plant if we can't save our own freedoms & life.Food For Thought…Free Associations a Start
     
    —–Original Message—–

     

    Tim Perkins <s..[email protected]> Aug 28 08:53AM -0700  

    Start here, then ask yourself, why would anyone request to study
    substandard University of Mississippi/NIDA schwag?
     
    http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/dea_rejects_umass_amherst_prof.html
     
    "Lyle Craker, a UMass professor of plant, soil and insect sciences in
    Amherst, has been trying to obtain a license since 2001 to further
    potentially life-saving research. "
     
    There is no money for funding research to put the drug war out of
    business. There are boatloads for bad pseudo-science to prop up profits.

     

 

    Steve Kubby <s..[email protected]> Aug 28 12:53AM -0700  

    Hi Friends,
     
    Sadly, a lot of cannabis people are being arrested these days and I wanted to give them a suggestion and hope. Each defendant will find that their prosectors and judges will employ fear and intimidation to compel you to do what they want. Always it is the use of threats, rather than actual physical force that is the method of choice with our tyrannical justice system. My suggestion to follow the advice of Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi who said, "Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as is cooperation with good."
     
    Enclosed below is my 2001 letter to the Chief Probation Officer for Placer County, refusing to accept any form of probation or pay any fines. Refusing probation may sound nuts, but it actually worked. Placer County was all too happy to transfer me to Mendocino, where I agreed to probation long enough to get my conviction dismissed in court and my record expunged.
     
    Special thanks to Bill McPike and Edie Lerman for their expert legal assistance.
     
    Let freedom grow,
    -S
     
     
     
     
     
     
    LETTER TO PLACER COUNTY
     
    REFUSING TO ACCEPT PROBATION
     
    OR PAY ANY FINES
     
    March 21, 2001
     
    Norma Suzuki
    Chief Probation Officer
    11564 C Avenue, DeWitt Center
    Auburn, CA 95603
    Phone:(phone#-removed)
    Fax:(phone#-removed)
    Probation Email (s..[email protected])
     
    RE: Refusal to agree to terms of probation
     
    Dear Ms. Suzuki,
     
    After several weeks of attempting to qualify for alternative sentencing, I find that I am unable to physically, financially, or morally complete electronic monitoring, probation, or payment of any fines assessed against me. At the time I was offered probation, I believed I could comply. However, as I found out the extent of the restrictions and the cost, my wife and I came to the decision that our family could not survive and I would be under even more threat than before, if I were to accept the terms of probation.
     
    This letter is to inform you that if I do not find judicial relief, I intend to show up for my jail date April 10th, 2001. Below are the details of the reasons for my decision:
     
    I refuse to pay the fine or probation fines that have been ordered, because the police and prosecutors bankrupted my family by falsely arresting me for growing medical marijuana. Because I cannot grow marijuana, I am forced to spend thousands of dollars each month on the black market, just to stay alive.
     
    I refuse to agree to house arrest, because I cannot find a house in which to serve my arrest. My wife and I were forced into bankruptcy by this raid, after a lifetime of excellent credit. Now, nobody wants to rent to us since we are unemployed and have bad credit. This leaves us no alternative but to send my wife and the two small children, back to British Columbia, where we have a home, business and friends. Thus, I would be forced to serve out my home detention on my own, without my family or caretaker/wife.
     
    Under the terms of electronic monitoring, I would only be allowed 2 hours a week to go out and shop. Without a caregiver and car, I can't do that, because I need such a specialized diet. Also, I would be unable to exercise each day, as required by my illness in order to avoid dangerous or lethal buildups of adrenaline. (My doctors have testified under oath that I could drop dead at any time from a stroke or heart attack, so these heath concerns are no small matter.)
     
    I refuse to serve three years of formal probation, because I've learned that a person on probation has no rights, and it would only be a matter of time before a medical pot patient like me would be visited by police exercising their "right" to a warrantless probation search.
     
    Despite proving myself innocent of all marijuana charges, I believe that my wife and I have never received justice or protection for lawfully asserting rights we helped to win in an open democratic election. Instead, probation would place a suffocating layer of hoops and threats upon us, which further endangers me and my family.
     
    I believe that sentencing me, when I am medically disabled and suffering from terminal cancer, two conditions that threaten my life, for misdemeanor possession of a mushroom stem and some tiny cactus buttons, not only needlessly endangers me and burdens my family, such a sentence is a violation of my Eighth Amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishment.
     
    As a result of my decision, I am hereby notifying the Placer County Probation Department that I refuse to agree to any of the terms for my probation electronic monitoring, or the payment of any fines.
     
    I have spoken to Terry Franchimone, your Probation Manager regarding these issues. Mr. Franchimone was actually very understanding and helpful. After some discussion of the matter, I told Mr. Franchimone that I intend to bring a motion in front of Judge John L. Cosgrove to spell out these issues. Because we are broke, I will have to write and present the motion myself. However, I am optimistic.
     
    In fairness to Judge Cosgrove, the prosecutors in our case withheld their decision to request a full dismissal of all marijuana charges until after the judge gave his sentence. If the Placer County District Attorney is now saying that the marijuana charges cannot be prosecuted, I'm going to ask the judge to throw out my convictions, because the police had no business being in my house to begin with.
     
    It seems to me that if we were lawfully asserting rights, for a law we helped to pass, and the District Attorney has failed to show any marijuana crime ever took place, accepting any form of probation would be a violation of everything we and this country stands for.
     
    Finally, I refuse to comply with the terms of probation, because of my profound belief that the threat of jail is being held over my head to
    coerce me into "voluntary compliance" with a criminal justice system that is broken.
     
    The law that my wife and I helped pass was easy enough for the voters of California and the jurors of Placer County to understand. Only narcotics officers, prosecutors, and others who benefit from the drug war have difficulty understanding a law that grants new rights. I find it amazing how difficult it is for people to understand something when their careers depend upon them NOT understanding it.
     
    I understand that I have until April 10th to comply with sentencing instructions and that after that, I will be "subject to immediate arrest, imprisonment and denial of any medical marijuana."
     
    Naturally my wife and I find such prospects distressing, especially since my life is on the line, but we will continue to stand on our principles and Constitutional rights. I wrote a book called 'The Politics of Consciousness,' that salutes the courageous people who helped fight tyranny during the early days of the American Revolution. My final statement about refusing probation is best summed up by words uttered centuries ago by one of those early Americans who gave their life to defeat tyrants:
     
    "Give me liberty, or give me death."
     
    Let freedom grow,
     
    Steve Kubby
     
    Cc: Sheriff Ed Bonner
    Frank Wolff, KCRA Sacramento
    Matt Robinson, FOX News
    Eric Baily, Los Angeles Times
    Alan Bock, Orange County Register
    Wayne Wilson, Sacramento Bee
    Henri Lee, San Francisco Chronicle
    Tom Elias, Washington Times
    Deric Roth, Auburn Journal
    Joel Miller, WorldNetDaily
    And other distinguished members of the media.

     

July 20, 2012 – Digest for s..[email protected] – 14 Messages in 9 Topics

    Mickey Martin <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 11:57AM -0700  

    The QUIT TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL FOR WEED Rally on Monday in Oakland
    Posted by Mickey Martin on July 20th, 2012
     
    On Monday at 3:00 pm activists groups from all over will converge on downtown Oakland to protest during President Obama’s 4:30 pm fundraiser. Groups from #Occupy to Tea Partiers are sure to show out to attempt to deliver their message to the President on his visit to the Fox Theater.
    My message is simple…QUIT TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL FOR WEED.
    Some are organizing under different banners for the event, including the “Rally to Save Harborside” and “Former Obama Supporters Rally” (thank you Tom Angell of LEAP). We strand in solidarity with any and all messages to President Obama that reflect the values of fairness, equality, and social justice. We understand that our message is crafted from many voices and viewpoints and we embrace all groups working for a better world.
    But I will be there with one clear message…QUIT TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL FOR WEED. I think that cuts right to the point. It might just be me, a cool sign, and probably a bullhorn….but believe the message will be clear before the day is done. We can no longer keep taking (mostly poor) people to jail for weed. It is not working.
    WHAT: THE QUIT TAKING PEOPLE TO JAIL RALLY
    WHEN: MONDAY, JULY 23RD AT 3:00 PMish….
    WHERE: Near 19TH STREET AND TELEGRAPH/BROADWAY IN OAKLAND, CA
    WHY: TO SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT WE DEMAND AN ENED TO OUR NATION’S POLICY OF PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR WEED
    I hope people can make it out and join in the festivities. It is sure to be a great time and a wonderful opportunity for real activism in the streets of Oakland….one of my favorite activities. Bring a sign, some comfortable shoes, some water, and the willingness to create real social change through direct action.
    #SummerOfBuds
     
    Mickey Martin
    T-Comp Consulting Director
    Author of Medical Marijuana 101
    www.cannabiswarrior.com
    www.tcompconsulting.com
    s..[email protected]
    (phone#-removed)
    http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
    http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
     
    ***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

     

 

    PeaceLove <s..[email protected]> Jul 19 11:38PM -0700  

    Dave Hodges:
     
    As I understand it, in not paying taxes you are not "flaunting" the law at
    all. You are following it. Isn't that correct?
     
    Jonathan
     
     
     
     
    > Harborside makes a mockery of the California laws, and the proof of it.
     
    > U.S. Attorney out of Line about Marijuana Posted by Rich Robinson<s..[email protected]> on
    > Thursday, July 19, 2012 Comments (2)<http://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/entries/7_19_12_attorney_melinda_haag_medical_marijuana_collectives_harborisde/#comments>
     
    [snip]
     

     

    Jonathan Lustig <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 10:23AM -0700  

    Id like to know what other entities, which exist, survive and expand by accepting donations, are taxed on their goods.
     
    If a citys constituency voted to tax Goodwill, while being deplorable, would it though be legal?
     
    There are some things in life which are blatently wrong to me, taxing a suffering individuals medication to maintain city sidewalks is as disgusting as supporting sweatshops and torture.
     
    Jonathan Lustig
    Social Crusader
     
    Sent from Earth using Android technology

     

    Thc <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 11:31AM -0700  

    Dave,
    We need to get together about SJ Politics Very Soon on this subject. Much has happened since we last talked…..
     
    Much love,
    Momma D
    (408) 410-4564
     
    Sent from my iPhone
     

     

    Dave Hodges <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 06:30PM -0700  

    http://bit.ly/A2C2-vs-HS <goog_346069817> U.S. Attorney May Not be Out of
    Line <http://bit.ly/A2C2-vs-HS> Posted by Guest Columnist on Friday, July
    20, 2012 Comments (1)
     
    *Dave Hodges operates A2C2 medical marijuana collective in San Jose. He
    wrote this column for San Jose Inside.—Editor*
     
    Harborside collectives in San Jose and Oakland were recently ordered to
    shut down by U.S. Attorney Melinda
    Haag<http://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/entries/7_19_12_attorney_melinda_haag_medical_marijuana_collectives_harborisde/>.
    Many have called Harborside a model for other medical marijuana collectives.
     
    To help everyone better understand what the complex California law states,
    I want to provide some direct quotes and key information:
     
    Let’s start with what defines a “collective” under California law? The only
    definition comes from Health and Safety Code 11362.775, where it states:
    “[California Medical Cannabis patients are allowed] Collectively or
    Cooperatively to Cultivate Marijuana for Medical Purposes.” In simple
    terms, the entire definition of what a collective is and how it operates is
    defined only by the word “collectively.”
     
    The “guidelines” most collectives operate under are the 2008 Attorney
    General (AG) “Guidelines for the Security and Non-Diversion of Marijuana
    Grown for Medical Use.” One thing that must be understood is that the AG
    Guidelines are NOT the law. They are AG Jerry Brown’s legal opinion of the
    law. Although they are not the law, they do reference it. In the AG
    Guidelines Section IV. A. 2.“Collectives:” it states “California law does
    not define collectives… As such, a collective is not a statutory entity.”
     
    So what is a “non-statutory entity”? It is any “entity” not defined under
    statutory law. A “non-statutory entity” is governed by “non-statutory law,”
    and includes structures such as churches, private associations, book clubs,
    etc. In the case of a “Collective”, the “non-statutory law” is defined in
    the “collective agreement” or “membership contract”. Thus a collective is a
    “non-statutory entity” who in effect defines it’s own “non-statutory law”
    in its “collective agreement.”
     
    Next, let’s discuss what defines a “Sale.” California’s Sales And Use Tax
    Law RTC section 6006, defines a “Sale” to mean and include: “Any transfer
    of Title or Possession”. Also known as a change in ownership. If a
    collective is structured properly, every member “collectively” owns the
    “collective.” As such, no change of ownership takes place when a member of
    the collective contributes to and receives cannabis produced “collectively”.
     
    The Board of Equalization’s legal opinion of a true collective is that
    within the collective no ownership changes and as such no “sale” of
    cannabis takes place, thus no sales tax liability is incurred. Thus a true
    collective does not pay “sales” tax. Over the past year, I have been
    undergoing an audit process with the BOE. The determination of the BOE
    auditor is that A2C2 is NOT a collective and, as such, I owe them $130k.
    The catch is, once the administrative remedies are exhausted, the court of
    appeals will have to decide if the Collective Agreement created by my
    attorney J David Nick defines a true collective. If it does, the BOE will
    owe me $12k for the sales tax I mistakenly paid them.
     
    When it comes to the city of San Jose’s tax, Measure U, the fact that the
    city attorney is aware of Measure U’s violations of law is evidenced by the
    drafted Title 6 Ordinance, Section 6.88.440. “Collective Operations”,
    subsections C & D:
     
    “C) No sale of any products, including medical marijuana… D) In-kind
    contributions, monetary contributions and property contributions provided
    by members towards the collective’s overhead expenses shall be in strict
    compliance with State law…” and is further supported by Measure U: 4.66.220
    “Payment of tax does not authorize unlawful business.”
     
    Although a “sale” inside a “collective” is protected in the state of
    California, Federally “sales” of cannabis are clearly illegal. In the case
    of Harborside, operators clearly state they “sell” marijuana and pay “sales
    tax” on it. Combine this with the fact that Harborside accepts medical
    cannabis patients who live outside the state of California, one might
    understand how a charge such as Federal Drug Sales/Trafficking might be
    filed.
     
    There is no one in the medical cannabis industry who is “safe” from federal
    enforcement. All one can do is limit one’s exposure to activities that are
    clearly illegal and work within the exact letter of the law. I do not agree
    with the apparently indiscriminate crackdown on cannabis clubs, but in my
    opinion, “the worlds largest seller of marijuana” has made a mockery of the
    “collective” model. And based on the interstate “drug sales,” Harborside
    may have clearly overstepped California’s Medical Cannabis laws.
     
    *Dave Hodges is the operator of A2C2 collective in San Jose.*
    TAGGED: politics <http://www.sanjoseinside.com/categories/politics>,
    business <http://www.sanjoseinside.com/categories/business>,
    culture<http://www.sanjoseinside.com/categories/culture>
    , a2c2 <http://www.sanjoseinside.com/tag/A2C2/>, dave
    hodges<http://www.sanjoseinside.com/tag/Dave+Hodges/>
    , harborside health center of san
    jose<http://www.sanjoseinside.com/tag/Harborside+Health+Center+of+San+Jose/>
    , jerry brown <http://www.sanjoseinside.com/tag/Jerry+Brown/>, medical
    marijuana <http://www.sanjoseinside.com/tag/medical+marijuana/>, melinda
    haag <http://www.sanjoseinside.com/tag/Melinda+Haag/>

     

 

 

    "Dr. Brazil" <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 10:19AM -0700  

    theQueen of Dragons  non-profit Collective & Club
    5044 Shasta Dam Blvd, Shasta Lake City, CA. 96019        [530] 276-9771
     From the Congressman
     
    Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 6:41 AM

    Mail

    July 20, 2012
     
     
     
    Dear Dr Tammy,
     
     Thank
    you for contacting me to express your support for H.R. 2306, the  Ending
    Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011 . I value your point of view
    and appreciate the opportunity to respond.
     
               While
    I agree that efforts to limit illicit drug use have not been fully successful, I believe that the negatives
    of drug legalization, including marijuana, would be much worse. Studies indicate that the marijuana used
    today is more potent than ever, causes serious mental health problems, can cause structure abnormalities
    in the brain, contains significantly greater cancer-causing properties than tobacco, is addictive and
    creates harmful dependencies, is a frequent precursor to the use of more dangerous drugs such as cocaine
    and heroin, and can lead users to commit violent or otherwise irresponsible actions that harm innocent
    people. 
     
    Additionally,
    decriminalizing or legalizing drugs may lead to the creation of a permanent class of drug users who will
    find it increasingly impossible to support themselves, and thus will rely on the state for welfare, disability
    payments, or unemployment insurance. Their medical problems will increase, draining our already strained
    county hospitals and the health care programs. Thus, innocent taxpayers will be forced to subsidize the
    dazed and lethargic lifestyle of substance abusers. Preventing drug users from operating motor vehicles
    will also become an increasing problem as drug use becomes more tolerated and acceptable.
     
    For
    these and other reasons, I oppose decriminalizing or legalizing the use of marijuana.  I believe the
    better approach is discouraging its use through a clear and honest discussion of the damage that the
    drug can cause.  I believe parents, schools, churches, and community organizations are best positioned
    to encourage personal responsibility and convince younger Americans especially that marijuana use contributes
    to an unhealthy lifestyle.  Additionally, I believe existing drug laws should be enforced to further
    discourage illicit drug use.
     
     
    Although we may not
    see eye-to-eye, I will be sure to keep your perspective in mind should Congress consider H.R. 2306 or
    other legislation that would change laws governing marijuana use. 
     
    As always, please do not hesitate
    to contact me in the future regarding this or any other federal issue important to you. In addition,
    I would like to invite you to visit my website at herger.house.gov where you can find additional information on my position on a variety of issues and sign up for occasional
    e-mail updates on them.
     
     
                                                                 Sincerely,
                                                                
                                                                
    WALLY HERGER
                                                                
    Member of Congress  

     

    "Martin A. Lee" <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 10:40AM +0200  

    Hi Don,
     
    That's a very cool bit if info. If you come up with more on this, please
    let me know. See you in Freiburg.
     
    Best, Martin
     
    On Thursday, July 19, 2012, Don E Wirtshafter wrote:
     

     

    Michael Backes <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 04:00PM  

    Love to see this documentation.
     
    Ohio University wasn't founded until the early 1800's, though.
     
    Of course that doesn't mean they didn't accept hemp for tuition at that
    time, though.
     

     

    David Jack <s..[email protected]> Jul 20 08:11AM -0700  

    http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/06/federal_ruling_may_change_probable_cause_in_mariju.php#more
     
    *Federal Ruling May Change Probable Cause In Marijuana Cases
    <http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2012/06/federal_ruling_may_change_probable_cause_in_mariju.php>*
     
    By Steve Elliott ~alapoet~
     
    Thursday, June 28, 2012 at 12:20 pm
     
    */Federal Court Judge Acknowledges Authority of a State Medical
    Marijuana Law/*
     
    *By Philip Dawdy*
     
    /Cannabis Activist/
     
    *A recent federal district court ruling in Spokane, Washington is
    something of which every medical cannabis attorney, patient, provider
    and advocate needs to be aware — not only in Washington State but
    throughout the entire Ninth Circuit.*
     
    The ruling is also something of a victory for Washington's recently
    changed medical cannabis law, because for the first time a judge has
    ruled in a way that gives quasi /arrest protection/ under the state
    medical cannabis law and has likely set an interesting precedent on
    probable cause and cannabis. And the ruling came from a /federal/ court
    judge. It was also a bit of a slap to the U.S. Attorney's Office in
    Eastern Washington.
     
    Last November, Spokane County Sheriff's deputies thought they had
    sniffed out a large cannabis grow in Spokane based upon a deputy's
    observation of odor of growing cannabis and so they did what narcotics
    cops often do: They ran the plates on a car at the home and determined
    that it was someone who'd been convicted of growing in the past. They
    examined power bills. They visited the home, smelled cannabis odors and
    made entry and busted several people and, eventually, seized evidence
    from both that home and a separate storage facility.
     
    Then they turned the case over to federal officials in Spokane who
    indicted the alleged cannabis growers for manufacturing more than 100
    plants. If convicted, the alleged growers would each be staring at /five
    years minimum/ in federal prison.
     
    But, in a filing in May
    <https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B_yJ1GjtR3BjdDljR2dHcVhPM0k>, their
    attorney Richard Wall argued that all of the evidence seized were the
    fruits of an illegal search and seizure, a violation of the 4th
    Amendment. He argued this based upon the fact that, in his view, that
    Washington's medical cannabis law had changed in 2011 from affirmative
    defense-only to something more akin to complete decriminalization of
    medical cannabis, even for growing, provided that people stayed within
    certain limits of possession.
     
    Here's the relevant language at RCW 69.51A.040
    <http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=69.51A.040>:
     
    The medical use of cannabis in accordance with the terms and conditions
    of this chapter does not constitute a crime and a qualifying patient or
    designated provider in compliance with the terms and conditions of this
    chapter may not be arrested, prosecuted, or subject to other criminal
    sanctions or civil consequences, for possession, manufacture, or
    delivery of, or for possession with intent to manufacture or deliver,
    cannabis under state law, or have real or personal property seized or
    forfeited for possession, manufacture, or delivery of, or for possession
    with intent to manufacture or deliver, cannabis under state law.
     
    In his filing, Wall argued that since there was no evidence in the
    search warrant affidavit that the deputies had attempted to determine
    how many plants were present at the location and had made no attempt to
    determine if anyone at the residence was actually in compliance with the
    state medical cannabis law, then there was no legitimate probable cause
    for the search and that any evidence seized should be quashed.
     
    What's more, since these were local police and they had not been
    operating as federal officers or claiming violations of federal law in
    their search warrant affidavit, then again the evidence seized needed to
    be tossed out of court.
     
    Wall argued:
     
    In order to establish probable cause to believe that a person has
    committed or is committing the crime of unlawful use, possession, or
    manufacturing of marijuana under Washington law, it is not enough to
    merely show that the person used, possessed, or manufactured marijuana.
    Instead, probable cause can be established only by showing that such
    use, possession or manufacturing failed to comply with the terms and
    conditions of RCW 69.51A.
     
    On May 31, a Senior US District Judge named William Nielsen issued an
    order <https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B_yJ1GjtR3BjYUVQWk5zU2hSTlU>
    accepting Wall's argument and quashing the evidence in the case. Judge
    Nielsen wrote:
     
    Contrary to the Government's assertion, a state crime has not been
    committed simply by possessing or manufacturing marijuana in Washington.
    If the person complies with the medical marijuana statute, they have not
    committed a state crime….The Court find that the statute is clear on
    its face and that the medical marijuana exception and the general
    controlled substance statute must be read together in a manner that
    gives both effect….It is uncontested that while the affidavit
    supporting the warrant included evidence of a marijuana grow, there was
    no mention of them edical marijuana statute or an assertion that the
    grow violated the medical marijuana statute. This omission is fatal to
    the warrant as the warrant then does not show probable cause of a crime.
     
    The judge invited the feds to file a reconsideration of its evidence,
    which the US Attorneys Office for Eastern Washington did, but without
    success.
     
    *Judge Nielsen's ruling is remarkable on a number of fronts.*
     
    It's literally *the first time I've ever seen a federal court judge
    allow and acknowledge the authority of a state medical cannabis
    statute*, especially in pre-trial maneuvers; it's the first time I can
    remember a federal court judge saying he was bound to give a state
    medical cannabis law "effect;" it would appear that the common use of
    odor of cannabis as probable cause is now out the window in states with
    medical cannabis law, at least up until an officer has determined if
    someone is a medical cannabis patient in compliance with their state's
    medical cannabis law. Power bills, another common probable cause tool,
    would be similarly effected.
     
    In late June, the U.S. Attorney's Office for Eastern Washington filed an
    appeal of Judge Nielsen's order with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
    and asked for that a stay be placed on the order. While the Court of
    Appeals has not ruled yet on the case or the stay, the judge's order is
    on hold. It is quite likely that whatever appeal the feds file will be
    met with several opposing amicus briefs.
     
    Unless Judge Nielsen's order is overturned by the Ninth Circuit Court of
    Appeals, *it is a ruling that can be employed by medical cannabis
    patients and defense attorneys most especially in Washington State, but
    also in other Ninth Circuit states with medical cannabis laws
    (California, Hawaii, Oregon, Alaska, Nevada, Michigan, Montana and
    Arizona).*
     
    /Editor's note: This article originally appeared on Seattle-based
    attorney Kurt E. Boehl's blog
    <http://seattle-criminaldefense.blogspot.com/2012/06/federal-court-ruling-may-change.html>,
    and was written by activist Philip Dawdy. The Law Office of Kurt E.
    Boehl, PLLC, can be reached at (206) 728-0200./