Please vote. Drug testing is a violation of our rights.
 
Mikki Norris
 
drug test?
 
PLEASE VOTE NO: Quick vote
Should applicants for jobless benefits have to pass a drug test?
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benefits-have-to-pass-a-drug-test/>
Yes
72%
187742
No
28%
71695
Total votes: 259437
 
 
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Peace, Lisa Cordova Schwarz
s..[email protected]

PLEASE VOTE NO: Quick vote
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Yes72%187742
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Peace, Lisa Cordova Schwarz
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Im just reading that the pappas law group has been granted a federal
hearing? If I am understanding correctly. This case premise is that
unequal voting has transpered. Becuase voters of D.C. congressional
district were allowed to vote and pass mj laws that unfair treatment
is being used in this federal crackdown? I am excited becuase recently
many filings have simply been dismissed without a hearing. However I
crave further educated legal minds to let us know more about how this
may play out and its over all vaule. Have we located an exit plan for
federal crackdown? Should a few us go to D.C. To observe this hearing
and learn more? If a hearing granted by one federal judge set us up to
have similar filing in other federal districts? Is mission impossible
becoming less impossible? Or is this futile and a fluk that we get a
single hearing instead of dissimal. Please he
 
—
Shona Gochenaur
Executive Director
Axis of Love SF
http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

Very interesting.
 
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur <
 
—
Thank you,
 
 
S. Kumar
Executive Director
El Camino Wellness Center
www,elcaminowellnesscenter.com
"A Community of Compassion"

High Shona,
 
The hearing will be in California (maybe Santa Ana in OC or Los Angeles?)
as Judge Guilford is with the US District Court for the Central District of
California. Below is the complete press release.
 
Peace
 
brett
 
 
Federal Court Sets Hearing in Medical Marijuana Voting Rights Case
 
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/federal-court-sets-hearing-in-medical-marijuana-voting-rights-case-2012-03-13
 
 
LOS ANGELES, March 13, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ — A hearing has been
ordered in the voting rights case brought by medical marijuana patients
against the federal government. U.S. District Court Judge Andrew Guilford
set March 26 to hear arguments regarding whether federal authorities should
be enjoined from sending letters ordering the closure of medical marijuana
collectives in Costa Mesa, California.
 
The patients in the case allege they have been denied the right to vote on
medical marijuana legalization despite Congress's December, 2009 decision
to grant that right to Washington D.C. voters. A team of likeminded
attorneys has now started working cooperatively to defend disabled patients
rights on this case and additional suits. Commenting on the importance of
the right to vote, Charles Farano, an attorney in the case, said, "when
Congress gives one group of citizens the right to vote on something, it is
inappropriate to deny that same voting right to others."
 
The case, James v. United States, was filed by Farano, David Welch, and
attorney Matthew Pappas on behalf of patients who allege loss of access to
medical cannabis after federal letters were sent ordering the shutdown of
all collectives in Lake Forest and Costa Mesa, both cities in Orange
County, California. The patients are asking the court to prohibit the
federal government from ordering the shutdown of collectives properly
operating under state law.
 
For more information contact Sergio Sandoval, Director of Public Relations,
Pappas Law Group.
 
Phone #(phone#-removed)
 
Email – s..[email protected]
 
SOURCE Pappas Law Group
 
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/federal-court-sets-hearing-in-medical-marijuana-voting-rights-case-2012-03-13
 
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur <
 
—
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for the latest marijuana and medical marijuana news
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bowl needs to be emptied. It never ends."
 
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This is my case. We are currently litigating a case in the 9th circuit court regarding the Americans with Disabilities Act. We recently enjoined the Federal Government to our case. We are hoping to receive a TRO (temporary restraining order) against the Federal Government (the DEA)using the 14th and the 10th amendments. The Feds closed all the collectives in Costa Mesa and Lake Forest, we are hoping some will reopen after the TRO. I have a copy of the brief if anyone would like to read it, let me know and I will forward it to you under my other email address s..[email protected]
Marla James
Orange County ASA – Director
 
 
 
FED JUDGE GRANTS HEARING? MARCH 26!
Inbox
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Axis of Love SF, Shona Gochenaur s..[email protected]
12:53 AM (16 hours ago)
 
 
Im just reading that the pappas law group has been granted a federal
hearing? If I am understanding correctly. This case premise is that
unequal voting has transpered. Becuase voters of D.C. congressional
district were allowed to vote and pass mj laws that unfair treatment
is being used in this federal crackdown? I am excited becuase recently
many filings have simply been dismissed without a hearing. However I
crave further educated legal minds to let us know more about how this
may play out and its over all vaule. Have we located an exit plan for
federal crackdown? Should a few us go to D.C. To observe this hearing
and learn more? If a hearing granted by one federal judge set us up to
have similar filing in other federal districts? Is mission impossible
becoming less impossible? Or is this futile and a fluk that we get a
single hearing instead of dissimal. Please he

Here's the garbage put out by Wally Herger- Congress
 
 
 
theQueen of Dragons  non-profit Collective & Club
5044 Shasta Dam Blvd, Shasta Lake City, CA. 96019        [530] 276-9771
 
Do not meddle in the dealings of Dragons
 For YOU are crunchy & taste good with ketchup 
 
Empowering People To Help Themselves
 
Dr Tammy K Brazil ND, CTN, DN, MDH, PhD
 
 
 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:29 AM
 

March 14, 2012
 
 
 
Dear Dr Tammy,
 
 Thank you for contacting me to express your support for H.R. 2306, the  Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011 . I value your point of view and appreciate the opportunity to respond.
 
           While I agree that efforts to limit illicit drug use have not been fully successful, I believe that the negatives of drug legalization, including marijuana, would be much worse. Studies indicate that the marijuana used today is more potent than ever, causes serious mental health problems, can cause structure abnormalities in the brain, contains significantly greater cancer-causing properties than tobacco, is addictive and creates harmful dependencies, is a frequent precursor to the use of more dangerous drugs such as cocaine and heroin, and can lead users to commit violent or otherwise irresponsible actions that harm innocent people. 
 
Additionally, decriminalizing or legalizing drugs may lead to the creation of a permanent class of drug users who will find it increasingly impossible to support themselves, and thus will rely on the state for welfare, disability payments, or unemployment insurance. Their medical problems will increase, draining our already strained county hospitals and the health care programs. Thus, innocent taxpayers will be forced to subsidize the dazed and lethargic lifestyle of substance abusers. Preventing drug users from operating motor vehicles will also become an increasing problem as drug use becomes more tolerated and acceptable.
 
For these and other reasons, I oppose decriminalizing or legalizing the use of marijuana.  I believe the better approach is discouraging its use through a clear and honest discussion of the damage that the drug can cause.  I believe parents, schools, churches, and community organizations are best positioned to encourage personal responsibility and convince younger Americans especially that marijuana use contributes to an unhealthy lifestyle.  Additionally, I believe existing drug laws should be enforced to further discourage illicit drug use.
 
 
Although we may not see eye-to-eye, I will be sure to keep your perspective in mind should Congress consider H.R. 2306 or other legislation that would change laws governing marijuana use. 
 
As always, please do not hesitate to contact me in the future regarding this or any other federal issue important to you. In addition, I would like to invite you to visit my website at herger.house.gov where you can find additional information on my position on a variety of issues and sign up for occasional e-mail updates on them.
 
 
                                                             Sincerely,
                                                            
                                                             WALLY HERGER
                                                             Member of Congress  

I cannot believe I have to actually say this out loud….whatever.
http://cannabiswarrior.com/2012/03/14/i-am-not-a-fed-i-promise/ 
 
 
Mickey Martin
T-Comp Consulting Director
www.cannabiswarrior.com
www.tcompconsulting.com
s..[email protected]
(phone#-removed)
http://twitter.com/micKEYmarTIN
http://twitter.com/CANNABISconsult
 
 
***The views expressed in this communication are not necessarily the views of T-Comp Consulting, Tainted Compassion, Cannabis Warrior any other group I am affiliated with.***

True to the core!!!!
 
On 3/13/2012 5:41 PM, Bill McPike wrote:

We pass on every letter everyone has there own special way of expressing
themselves. Thanks so much, the HopeNet family

Save Cannabis~
  I have been looking over the save cannabis emails. It appears to me that there are many people within this movement who are working at cross purposes to one another. This diminishes the impact of the concept of getting marijuana out of the hands of the control freaks, and into the hands of the people. Surely, we can do better. As a suggestion, last year, I had drafted a pattern initiative which was minimally worded and comprehensive.  I am not a lawmaker, or a lawyer.
  I am a medical marijuana patient, and I grow most of my medical marijuana. Sure, some people use pot to get high. Sure, some folks who think they are just getting high are actually medicating. Sure, some medical marijuana is being used by some people just to get high. So what! The prohibitionist pot laws are stupid, arbitrary and counter-productive.
  Maybe, just maybe, the suggestions I had for an Initiative Petition for California voters, can gain traction with a broad range of pot activists. I will attach it to this email. One thing is sure, if we don't get together on this, the spectre of prohibition will bedevil us for another couple years, at least.
  Marijuana and Cannabis Hemp being outlawed here and abroad is one of the most cruel hoaxes that has ever been perpetrated on the world's people. If the situation is to be rectified, "Save Cannabis" is probably a good place to start.
  All the best,    Dennis Hinze  
 
SWALLOW AIR TO INCREASE BUOYANCY
   visit: www.survivalworkshop.com
 
 

"I know that Jack recognized that people used cannabis for fun and he
absolutely approved of them having access to the herb without a medical say
so."
 
Is echinacea medicine? Yes. Does it require a "medical say-so" to use? No.
 
Did Jack Herer consider cannabis a medicine? Yes. What were his exact
words? "*all use is medicinal"*
 
Does this mean that Jack insisted that all medicine required a "medical
say-so"? No.
 
You can have medicine without a "medical say-so".
 
To have an inclusive movement, we should allow those places with no chance
at legalizing for recreational purposes to legitimize all use with the "all
use is medicinal", like Jack would want us to have done. For those places
that have already won medicinal rights – like Colorado and California -
they should then make the "medicine doesn't always require a say-so"
argument. Because it doesn't … especially herbal medicine.
 
"ANd I wish David M L would stop trying to attack people and put words in
their mouths when he does not understand them."
 
It's not that I don't understand you, it's just that I don't agree with
you. Unlike everyone else here, I take the time to quote what exactly I am
responding to, bit by bit. I would love it if everyone else paid me the
same respect, instead of making accusations against me without referencing
what they are talking about.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From: lavonne victor [mailto:s..[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:20 PM
 

 
This is another thing that i will put out there…
 
Whom is really making money off of the terminal ill citizens in this
movement? Or those if it is legalized to make tons of monies off of the
citizens … concerning this issue…
 

 
Those behind the intitiatives will be… that is the fact.. and those whom
have the monies already to take over the cannabis production… and this is
what it is all about… not the welfare of those citizens whom have seriouse
illness and i am not talking about a simple headacke or a backack..
 

 
I was very supportive behind this movenent at one time.. and believed
everything that they have told me behind this issue.. but now.. its
different…
 

 
I started using cannabis because i was really sick.. 12 years ago… and it
changed my views on the use of it for medical proposes.. for it has been
proven that it works… and i will continue to utalize it… but i will not
listen to the bull that is put out there any more… for it, this movement
can not make up its mind of the direction it wants to go in and it is torn
in two..
 

 
As a patient , whom is not really involved physcially with all the parties,
the gatherings, the events, its not that i don't want to be there in
person.. but i am unable to… due to many issues behind what i am going
through..
 

 
But as a patient.. i am a wast of time for all … what ever….
 
I don't utalize cannabis to have a good time at parties and to get high.. i
do not grow cannabis just because i can.. its because it helps me and i am
able to by the laws of this state.. and now you guys want to take this all
away from people like me…. and others… just because you don't like what
it is now… you want to change it and obtain the power and the greed behind
this issue…. and that is a fact…
 

 
i have seen many patients get arrested and providers get arrested and spent
tons of moneis that they just do not have and then sent down the river
without a paddle.. and then those simple patients whom grow for themselfs
are snubbed…by those whom are in the movement .. but its not for medical
proposes anymore.. but yet many fight to keep the store fronts from closing
in order for them to obtain safe access to their MEDICAL cannabis….
 

 
Legalization for all use you say.. well.. that is a solution to be found…
but yet you can't even fixt the issues behind the medical use of cannabis…
everyone is in a click except those whom are outside of the click whom grow
in compliance with what the law states.. but now we are in danger due to the
greed behind this issue of cannabis…
 

 
and once that intiative of the choice comes about and it is legalized .. you
think that it will make a diffrence to the cops or the sherrifs if it is
medical for some folks.. i think not… for they will not tell the
difference and they will treat us all the same…. that is the fact..
 

 
This state and the counties in this state and the cities have banned all the
medical suppliers and now they are comming after those whom grow and give
them alternatums and are controling what they can do and not do.. and make
up their own ordiance to their own bias opions instead of the welfare of
those citizens whom utalize cannabis..
 

 
How many more people are going to continue to be affect behind this issue of
legalization instead of pulling together to fix the medical problems behind
the medical use of cannabis.. how long as this been going on….
 

 
everyone grows to make monies now… and if your not in agreement with this
then your out of existance and can not be bothered with… and yes i have
met many of the old timers in this movement… and yes i have been to
meetings for years on end, and spent time and time again pickiting amonst
all the rest… and yes i hear ill respect of talks about others in this
movement.. you talk about love and acceptance … but yet you turn your back
and backstab those you smile to in thier face and spread gosup against those
you do not approve of…. for your bias outlook on their being…
 

 
Money is behind this issue.. and that is what the truth is … how much you
can sell, how much you can charge.. and how it looks, and bla bla bal …..
it is not really about the welfare of those whom really are sick, whom
really depend and believe of what they do… but yet some whom do beleive
open up the stores just to loose everything that they have worked for and
leave those sick people out in the cold for now they have no place to obtain
their medicine to fit thier medical needs… and if you don't like my
spelling.. tough cookies…
 

 
But yet you say that they will be forced to go to a black market for store
fronts are not in existance only those whom are are behind their own
agendas, or agreements with god knows who…but yet there are many whom do
grow and grow in unity with others to obtain safe access at a low cost or
what ever that they do…. but geesh… this movement is insane and you call
me insane?
 

 
Ill will talks about the ASA organizations, or CA norml .. whom hid behind
the facts of what is really going on behind closed doors… you really must
think that the citizens whom are terminally ill are really stupid…and the
people outside of the movement… either it is for legalization or for
medical use…
 

 
Most of what i have read is how these store fronts are being raided and how
these people fight for their right to obtain from these store fonts… and
its all about the medical needs.. and they should stop being raided and be
allowed to provide for so many … but yet we have another whom are against
the medical us for they want it legalized for all adult use…. and for
those whom are trying to do an initative what the control of whom is allow
to stay open and whom is allow to grow for these places and put away with
the rest whom provide for themselves… i heard it and i read it all..
 

 
Tax cannabis.. regulate it.. and control it… you say… but yet this will
open up more doors for many to be procecuted against for this state and the
counties in this state can not even handle the issue of the medical laws
behind this issue?
 

 
Its all about the money.. someone has told me allong time ago.. and you know
what.. he was right.. its all about the monies.. not about the compassionate
use of those whom are really ill and facing the challenges that they face on
a daily basics not just with their medical issues but with their financial
issues as well.. but yet some say they should get out and get
signatures…and they think its is so easy for many of us whom depend upon a
wheelchair, or depend upon a divice to get us through the day.. which takes
allot of energy from most of them just to get out that door to obtain what
they need to live another day…..
 

 
You complain how many of the store fronts are being closed down.. and how
others will not be able to obtain.. and now you want something else… while
we all are fighting for our right to utalize for our medical needs and suing
the counties and bringing the issue of store fronts to the state… to allow
what is already allowd from the laws that are there.. already in statued…
i may not be as smart as many.. and may not have worked for years on end due
to my issues.. but i am not stupid… and i am not crazy… but i am pissed
as all hell for those whom put your bias judgement upon me and think that
your better than me.. due to this issue… yep.. its all about the power and
the greed..
 

 
Lets have a party.. a big block party. to justicy the means… behind this
issue… for all those whom are able to be young, and some young at heart ,
and walking and able to be apart of are in a diffent world then many whom
really benifit from the use of cannabis for their medical issues… and you
wonder why most of those whom are medicaly incline to this plant are so
discusted with this movement?… and then you wonder why those are no longer
involved in this movent and have stepped out of the click of it all?….
 

 
You don't give a hoot about those whom are really benifiting from the use of
cannabis.. and those whom need a safe place to go to obtain.. and you blame
it all on the Federal and the cities and the counties on this issue.. and
yes they are to blame for causing harm upon their citizens in this issue and
not upholding the laws that allow safe access and instead they also want the
power and the greed behind this issue…
 

 
Many whom are talking … and those whom are in the same boat are jsut
feeding it to those whom are already on the same boat as they are .. someone
told me, for many years your just talking and beating the horse that already
is drinking from the same waters that are being feed to them… Follow the
money he has said to me… well..
 

 
i reather follow to a better tomorrow and live in peace and take care of
myelf so i can live another day… and i am facing issues big time in my
life now.. whom caused this trouble that we have now? whom has caused more
harm behind this issue and continue to have innocent citizens of all ages
being affected by this issue? Power and greed from both sides of the coin…
if i did what you guys did.. i would be serviing time in jail right now..
and you think that many give a hoot? Yes i am hurt and i am angry… for you
all want to take it away from those whom benifit behind this issue of
medical for your own personal agendas and greed… you can not have it both
ways… either support the medical use of cannabis and help find better
solutions so that our stores can stay open and continue to provide for those
whom utalize it for medical purposes.. for that is the main purpose here..
for all that i have read is about the store fronts and how angry these
patients are that have lost their own way of to obtain their cannabis for
their medical needs…
 

 
I am a voter.. and i am a voice that is to be heard
 
no matter if you aprove of what i say.. or write on this list…
 

 
jsut because i see it in a diffent light than many .. do not make you better
than me.. just because your on a highter totem pole than myself.. you made
the laws.. now fix them to stop all this madness that we are facing with our
counties and with our cities and with our states and the federal agencies
and the drug enforcement… and stop these people from attacking those whom
are on a lower totem pole than you guys are….
 

 
As a pateint whom utalizes cannabis for my illenss… i have a right to talk
to you.. for this is effecting me.. and stressing me out to the max… i
will not be a marter to you or others behind this issue any more.. i have
faceed the courts not once but twice due to growing my own medical
cannabis… but we were lucky.. for we were told that we were trying to
uphold the laws.. but many are not.. and there are many cases out there that
should not be even in the courts behind this issue.. but they are… either
we are all on the same boat , if we are not untied .. then we will continue
to be torn behind this issue.. and it will be taken from us…
 
many states are handling this issue allot better than California.. and its
all behind the greed and the power behind this issue of those whom make tons
and tons of moneis off of those whom use it for medical use.. and then hid
behind the laws to provide for others outside for recreational use…
 

 
yes i grow.. and i grow to the best of our abilities.. it may not be in the
perfection of others whom have been doing it for allot longer than we have
but we can provide for ourselves.. and we are bless to even do that… but
there are some that are not blessed to do this .. and need the store fronts
to fill their medical needs..
 

 
AND it is for medical .. otherwise.. why fight to keep these store owners in
business to provide medicine… just because i am a sick person.. and i
really am.. and i do not know how much i will be able to stay in the reality
that surrounds me on a dialy basice due to my brain filling up with
leasions… and you call me crasy?.. but yet the power behind this issue and
the greed behind this issue will take what ever i have to survive away from
me?… and i do not have the right to speak up on this issue ?.. more
patients outside of this movement should speak up.. then many be you all
would understand where we are comming from… we are all diffent in vocies..
and opions.. but i can only speak of my univese that surrounds. me.. you
think i wanted this life.. to be disabled and live on shit for financial
means.. and not work and have a career like most on this list? But yet just
because i stopped being an activist to take care of me.. i am now nobody to
anyone else? and condemmed?… with your judgemental and waste of time
addituted.. and then you bump people off this list due to diffence of opions
or heated issues… like Mikey.. whom has never been kicked off due to his
rants and rages? or many others?…. but i guess i am a negitive drain to
you all.. but really? really..
 

 
some of you do know who i am .. and some do not.. some approve of me and
like me and some of you do not , and then some of you whom do not know me
take the gossip of those others whom speak ill of us due to them being
kicked out of our small insunifiante association of patients?.. Is this how
you treat each other?… and you call this love and unity? toward a better
solution.. your all jsut as bad as the other side..
 
some talk shit about organizations and wht they are doing.. and who is a
stitch and whom is working iwth the cops, blablable….
 

 
maybe we should work with the cops, the sheriffs, the govern afficials, the
board of supervisers that are high on thier seats that just look the other
way and snicker everytime someone speaks about cananbis… and those many
others whom refuse to uphold the laws concerningh this issue… and then
maybe we can all unite for a better tomorrow…
 

 
yes.. now come back at me .. and say i am crazy.. you think i give a hoot?..
about your views of me.. you don't even know me… you dont even give a hoot
about people like me.. and you expect me not to say nothing ?
 

 
you whom are making the intitatives.. need to find the unity amonst us all..
instead of what you can get from it in the end and how much moneis that your
going to make behind this issue…
 

 
Have a good toke …and now i am waiting for you all to tear me apart..
yep.. i see it comming.. yep… I may be a woman.. but at least i have to
galls to say what i have to say.. inspite of your disaproval…and yep.. i
said galls instead of balls.. for i am a woman.. i do not have balls…and a
senior as it it.. and proud of it….
 

 
If Micky can say what he has to say.. and the others on this list than i too
have that right as well..
 
political.. its all the same .. even outside of this issue… there are many
whom go without due to not being able to afford to utalize cannabis for
their illness.. now why is that?…i guess they dont' count?.. unless they
can put forth.. hmm.. jsut a thought…

I'm not sure who these pot docs are but if you mean the 'in and out ' $49.95 docs, they are undermining both medical marijuana and full legalization. Here's the little secret that escapes those who would poo poo medical marijuana. There are tens of tjousands of really sick peop0le who benefit from the medicinal use of cannabis. These people have earned the right to be better or be well by their use of cannabis for medicinal purposes. To treat the genuinely ill as a stalking horse for legalization is seamly and immoral..
 
Some may have looked at Prop 215 as the camels nose in the legalization fight. There are two points that must be kept in mind is that medicinal cannabis only helps legalization as long as we rewcognize its medical value and treat cannabis as a medicine under Prop 215.
Whether you believe social and medical use are synonomous that is not what the voters voted for with Prop 215. The voters don't like to feel fooled or tricked.
 
The less we follow the spirit of 215 the more we shoot ourselvews in the foot and provide ammo for the neo prohibitionists. The more we honor cannabis as medicine and treat it as such, the more we remove the cloak of demonization ,fear,ignorance and misinformastion and the more we move forward legalization for any purpose.
 
So we need to educate the pot docs and get them to stop and/or marginalize their practicing minimalist medicine and get them to start practicing real medicine. Dispensaries too, need to be professional. The more professional the dispensaries are the more it drives our adversatries nuts.For those of you who have had the staminha to read this far, to see what kind of practice standards I'm talking about you might want to check the website of the American Academy of Cannabinoid Medicine (www.aacmsite.org )
Peace
Dave
 

To be honest ? I am a person whose been shredded by mickey .Compared
to hideous evil villians like david koresh .Torn apart and fed to the
wolves. For in short questioning major policy heads effectiveness.I
was told if I didnt apologize that I would suffer online? And sure as
shit? When you goggle? Me? You get mickey take on me in the first
page. Which at this point is water under the bridge. A mind that can
step back and change? Its perspective is worth it and being willing to
include everyone with transperancy and passion ? In their truth
telling is cathartic. I openly questioned national policy grps and ASA
when I was working with POW scott feil . He ran out of funding and
perhaps therefore not receiving the support from policy grps? That he
formaly was a sizable contributor to . Thats not a conspiracy story
.Thats a nice man sitting in jail becuase?We cant all work it out.
Together . I think we need to de colonize this "movement" and quit
marginalizing anyone who doesnt bow down to a manufactured con
 
 
—
Shona Gochenaur
Executive Director
Axis of Love SF
http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

sorry phone cut off last words . Manufactured consent.
 
 
—
Shona Gochenaur
Executive Director
Axis of Love SF
http://www.facebook.com/axisoflove
http://www.twitter.com/axisoflove

Dr. Bearman, you are MOST definitely not on that list, as are most of
the medical professionals on this list, including Dr. Frank, who's
opinion & practice I respect & admire a great deal! But you do know
precisely to whom I'm referring!
 
Peace,
 
Hal Muskat
Veteran's For Peace
"Sir, No Sir!"
 
 
On 3/13/12 10:04 PM, Dr. David Bearman wrote:

I choose not to blame "all those unscrupulous pot docs" just as I choose
not to blame "all those potheads" who get equal or worse blame for not
being "sick enough" to use medical cannabis lawfully. I choose not to blame
"vaguely worded laws." It's a blame game; everybody loses.
 
To blame pot docs, in particular, is to start down the slippery slope of
"who's sick enough?" calculations, which tend to be based more on morality
than standards of good medicine. It's a moral decision to limit the number
of patients who qualify based on a legislative laundry list of "serious"
medical conditions or, even worse, to limit authority for recommending
cannabis to patients who can't tolerate pharmaceuticals instead. If
California's Prop. 215 was drawn too broadly, as popular opinion seems to
indicate with the benefit of hindsight, nothing in the 15 other MMJ states
stands out as being a superior model of best medical practices or medical
regulation. Wherever you draw that line between "sick enough" and "stoner,"
we're all perceived as potheads anyway, so the political benefit of tighter
controls is almost nil.
 
Yet the trend seems clear; a narrowing of qualifying medical conditions and
the development of standardized cannabis pharmaceuticals. We asked for
medical marijuana, and sure as heck one day we'll get it, all squeaky clean
and FDA-approved for certain uses, perhaps even with the ability for
doctors to prescribe it "off label" for unapproved conditions. Thatdoesn't
strike me as substantially different from what pot docs are doing for their
patients right now, and more power to them all for taking advantage of the
laws that are there to protect them.
 
 
 
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/angel-raich_n_1342586.html?ref=san-francisco
 
Anyone interested in a smoke out @ Parnassus?

prohibitonist and predatory business practices go hand in hand. And
they just babble out the crazy talk . Talk in circles .more rules wont
change fed attack . Getting your crazy butts to congress to repeal ,
end , de schedule , cannabis.might. Yep I agree with mickeys sediments
below . You may be right? I may be crazy? But Im not fucking crazy
 
 
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