From: Weed Activist – December 14, 2012
Dear President Obama: Grow a Sack of Nuts
Dear President Obama,
I am not trying to be an asshole when I say this, but “GROW A SACK OF NUTS” already.
I thought yesterday, when I heard your administration was not going to fight for Susan Rice and her honor, that that would have been the least courageous thing I heard from you guys yesterday. But I was wrong.
While it is very sad that you could not find the courage to allow Ms. Rice the opportunity to “serve at the highest possible level” and go to battle with the idiots who oppose her nomination, it is indicative of how you have operated as President to date. You continue to cave to the demands of the far right Republicans, in hopes of earning some favor with those assholes. How has that worked out? I mean besides them calling you a Kenyan socialist and accusing you of running the economy into the ground? Have they come around yet?
I pulled for your re-election. I believed that in a second term that you may grow that sack of nuts and hopefully find your voice, and I still believe that. I know you have not been inaugurated yet, but so far, I am not feeling encouraged. Why? Sure…you have had some tough talk with John Boehner that sounds great in sound bites; but I would bet the final fiscal cliff deal includes you caving on Medicare still. Then there is Susan Rice, which is an epic fail in courage.
BUT…now you go on an interview with Barbara Walters and when confronted with the reality that two states passed weed legalization measures, and your response is some double speak about, “It would not make sense for us to see a top priority as going after recreational users in states that have determined that it’s legal.”
Look here, Barry. We are not talking about some guy walking down the street with his joint. It is ALREADY not a top priority for your precious Drug Enforcement Agency. No one ever even remotely mentioned it was. You are talking in circles…again. Break down your comment for a minute…
*”It would not make sense…”* – doublespeak for *”I have no idea what the DEA will do”*
*”for us to see a top priority…”*- doublespeak for *”I never said it wasn’t a priority, at all. Just not a top one.”*
*”as going after recreational users…”-* doublespeak for *”I still might arrest sellers, growers, and producers.”*
*”in states that have determined that it’s legal.”*- doublespeak for *”I got my ass kicked by weed in the election.”*
But all hope is not lost. We just need to look back to May to see that Obama does have the courage to change his mind publicly on social change issues like he did on gay marriage. Here is a quote from an interview he did with ABC in May discussing his shift in opinion, and in policy:
“I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or Marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, *at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married*,” he said
“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president said. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know, believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. *You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently.* It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”
That is right. Obama was against gay marriage when he took office in 2009, and did an about face on the issue when he had the political coverage to do so. Maybe some od Sasha and Malia’s friends parents also smoke weed and do not deserve to be treated like criminals either. You ever think of that? So it is not unheard of that Obama can transform his public positions when he needs to. That is encouraging.
What is not encouraging is the other stupid remarks he said about weed to Barbara Walters in his first statements about weed legalization. He went on to say:
“”This is a tough problem, because Congress has not yet changed the law,” Obama said. “I head up the executive branch; we’re supposed to be carrying out laws. And so what we’re going to need to have is a conversation about, How do you reconcile a federal law that still says marijuana is a federal offense and state laws that say that it’s legal?”
But this is where he lacks serious courage, and is kind of full of shit. He kicks the can over to Congress, as if he is powerless over the law, as it stands. Yes, Obama…you head up the Executive Branch. You head up the US Department of Justice. You are the Commander in Chief. If you tell your army of drug warriors to stand down on weed, they will listen. Just like they listened when you told them to stand down on immigration for dreamers, and to not enforce the Defense of Marriage Act.
Even further are the powere rlegated to the Executive Branch regarding the Controlled Substances Act. Your Attorney General and Secretary of Health and Human Services can remove cannabis from the list of scheduled drugs…if you wanted to. So spare me the “it’s Congress’ fault” rhetoric for a minute, and grow a sack of nuts. The only one continuing to take mostly poor people to jail for growing and selling weed is YOU.
You are better than this. You do not have to play the “I hate weed” game. You go on to respond to accusations of your admitted weed use in your youth, as if you are ashamed, when in every account of the situation it would seem you had a great time as leader of the Choom Gang. You stated this:
“There are a bunch of things I did that I regret when I was a kid,” Obama told Walters. “My attitude is, substance abuse generally is not good for our kids, not good for our society.”
You know what is REALLY bad for our society? Taking poor people to jail for weed.
You said, “substance abuse generally is not good for our kids, not good for our society.” That is not even what we are talking about, player. We are talking about responsible adults using a substance far safer than the many legal substances that we allow adults to use responsibly every day. I think we all agree that substance abuse is bad. You will not get an argument there. Nobody is saying that kids should have weed in their school lunch. You are ducking the issue.
The issue is that adults should be able to use weed without being treated as a criminal, or losing their standing in our society. I got kids too. I am not encouraging them to smoke weed. But I am more worried about the fact that if they do decide when they are old enough to try weed that your goon squads will not use their paramilitary force to haul him off to prison. Do you get that?
Furthermore, I know for a fact that weed will be far easier for my kids to get in its current non-regulated market where distribution is left to folks who do not have any problem selling to underage kids. At least if pot is sold in a regulated and controlled environment the kid will have to find some asshole of age to buy his weed for him, just like they do booze now. It is way harder for kids to get booze than weed right now, so your “protect the kids” theory does not hold water.
But if you want to keep giving people the impression that you are not soft on drugs, so that you can spend that political capitol on other issues, then so be it. I think it is cowardly.
This is an issue that tears at the fabric of our society. We are the world’s leading jailer by far because of these disastrous policies, and you do not have the courage to stand up and say, “Enough?” Why? What is stopping you? Weed beat you in Colorado by 50,000 votes. Not really a back burner issue any more, eh? The fact that you choose to ignore the reality and face this issue head on makes me sad. We are at a point in history where it is time to change course. We can no longer afford, financially or socially, to take people to jail for a safe, enjoyable, and helpful plant. It is just not working.
The one encouraging quip that you interjected into your conversation on weed with Barbara WaWa was this…you used the phrase, “”at this point,” you do not support legalization. To me, that sounds like you may be finding your sack of nuts and may get back to us soon with a different position at a different point. At least that is what I am hoping.
I did not expect you to run right out with your Grateful Dead tie-dye shirt and a fatty; but I did expect for you to make more educated and understanding responses. I think you will eventually do the right thing on this issue…the question is how much blood and treasure do we have to lose between now and then? How many more otherwise good kids who got caught up in the “illegal” weed game have to lose their freedom before you say enough?
The time is now. You can end this thing. So walk back into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and begin to grow that sack of nuts that you will need to stand up to decades of prohibition and the monsters that choose to keep these evil policies in place. The next time you get the “What are you gonna do about weed in CO and WA?” question, hopefully you will have a more courageous and responsible answer.
The “I do not think kids should smoke weed” response is neither relevant, nor adequate. If you really care about the kids, grow a sack of nuts and quit taking them to jail. Anything less than ending this thing is once and for all is unacceptable. We are better than this as a society, and as our leader, you have got to find your voice for cannabis freedom…and soon.
Yours Truly…The Weed Activist http://weedactivist.com/2012/12/14/dear-president-obama-grow-a-sack-of-nuts/endinterference-1/
From: Weed Activist – December 10, 2012
The 800 Pound Gorilla in the Medical Cannabis Room
I guess there is no easy way to say this, so it is best to get it right out there…..People think medical cannabis is a sham.
Well, it is not that they think cannabis being medicine is a sham; they think the fact that all of the sudden everyone is very sick and there are a million docs willing to authorize you to use medical cannabis for a lousy $50 fee is a sham.
Now, before you go flying off the handle about how, “All use is medical. My anxiety level is reduced and I sleep better. If cannabis makes me feel better than it is a medicine,” just know I could give a shit. I am not looking down my nose at you, or accusing you of anything.
I am just saying that people are no going for it; and the longer we continue to play the game of medical charades, the less impressed people are becoming and the more difficult it becomes to sell actual cannabis therapies to actual doctors who have practices that are not focused solely on cannabis.
I will be the grown-ass person in the room who decides to acknowledge that maybe we have overplayed that hand; and maybe new strategies are necessary for us to achieve our goal of ending prohibition.
Now, I know that is not everyone’s goal. There are plenty among us who deep-down have no desire to see cannabis truly legal ever. In our own reform circles, the amount of people who claim to be activists, but whose actions really represent those more of a prohibitionist, is striking. I used to think I was just tripping, and there is no way that this guy from NORML, or that dude who runs this big ass dispensary, would ever really be for extending, or delaying, prohibition.
But then you start seeing the patterns. The rhetoric spewed by one becomes the talking point of the next; and before you know it, there is a circular firing squad of half-hearted reform, and large groups of people who refuse to acknowledge reality. You can hear the hyperbolic bullshit intertwine itself into the lexicon of followers, and sooner than later, everyone is speaking in tongues and washed in the bullshit responses of those who could go for just another couple of years of the status quo.
There is no major internal acknowledgement that things are not working. None of these folks who make their money from the semi-legal market of medicalization are standing up and speaking the truth. They absolutely deny that there is a perception issue, or that the 19-year-old with the insomnia may be bullshitting his doctor. It is amazing to me that EVERY media story out these days questions the validity of this entire movement, yet from those supposedly leading the charge for medical cannabis remain utterly silent. Why? Because they know that their existence is dependent on things staying as they are. There is no effort to self-regulate the industry, or encourage some of the more flamboyant operators to slow their roll. You will not see the folks at ASA tell a doctor to quit writing questionable recommendations. When have you ever heard that? NEVER. Why?
Because of the 800 lb. gorilla called MONEY.
The doctors are making money hand over fist. Those patients then go to dispensaries, who make money hand over fist in a market that is inflated due to the semi-black market and risk. Those doctors and dispensaries donate to the reform groups, who in turn, do their bidding. So there in lies the reality…..It is hard to fight for cannabis freedom when it is in direct conflict with your paycheck…which is why the effort towards legalization is usually downplayed and discouraged by many “medical professionals” and organizations.
The next time a person says “Well, we need to get medical right before we can do adult use legalization” know that is code for “I could just use a few more years of making this money.” The absurd notion that we would waste our time and energy to pass more laws that regulate a medical market ,which will likely disappear after adult use passes, is tiring. Get a grip.
Medical cannabis is very real and powerful. It is a disservice to continue to stifle its research and integration into real medical circles because of selfish reasons to keep it bogged down by allowing doctors and less than seriously ill folks make a mockery of the term “medical.” Your big ass blunt is not a medicine…it does not matter how many times you say that it is out loud.
Until we begin to be honest with ourselves, we should not be surprised that others do not take us seriously. Because we fail to take a good hard look around and attempt to have an open and honest dialogue about the current state of affairs and were we stand as a community, we are doomed to mediocrity. We will continue to see half-hearted efforts towards reform, that are really efforts to maintain the current (and sad) state of affairs.
The 800 pound gorilla is definitely in the room, and he is getting pretty hungry.
From: Weed Activist – December 8, 2012
Cannabis Warrior: You gotta be shitting me…..2016? Excuses Suck.
By Mickey Martin
I was invited to attend a meeting last night in California regarding an effort to put forth a “California Super Initiative,” in the future. It was a meeting of many prominent California reformers and reform group representatives. It was also an interesting group of mostly familiar faces who have decided to form a coalition to move forward on legalization efforts in California. It all sounds groovy so far, right?
What was puzzling is not always who is on the guest list, but also who is not. I am aware of many people that are working on this issue who were, for one reason or another, not included in this process.
As I sat down for the meeting, I understood the challenges. I have been a rather prominent fixture in cannabis reform circles for a minute now, and I know firsthand the personalities and stark differences that challenge the cannabis community. There is the old guard and the new guard. There are the radical and the cautious. There are the arrogant and the humble. The haves and the have nots. And then there is me….
I have often searched for my place in this movement, and have struggled to come to terms with the fact that maybe there is no “place” for me. I do not belong to any of the cannabis tribes, and have taken many positions that have put me at odds with those who are also my allies. I am no stranger to conflict in the cannabis industry. I have always been fine with standing alone in opposition and speaking my mind.
Mahatma Ghandi said:
Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth.
A ‘No’ uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a ‘Yes’ merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble.
The room was abuzz with excitement of cannabis and the hopes that California can become the next Colorado, and to a lesser extent Washington State. Everyone sees the writing on the wall and knows it is not a matter of if, but a matter of when weed will be legal for adult use in California and the Nation.
Libertarian Party Vice Presidential Candidate, Judge James Gray, lead the conversation with a call for commitment from the group. His effort to rally the troops was noble and Judge Gray is a very likable person. Enthusiastically people began to express their support and commitment to “unity.” Judge Gray committed to following through with whatever the group brought forth, and asked for a show of hands from everyone who would also make that commitment. Most in the room were on board. Super…
But then came a more detailed and robust discussion about the specifics of the effort. The debate over 2014 or 2016 ensued, as folks tried to figure out when the best time might be to put a “super initiative” on the ballot. There was a discussion at first about how 2014 could work; but that discussion faded into a chorus of excuses about how it would be impossible.
“The funders will not go for it. We cannot afford to lose again. We could not get the language together by next August. We need to do a medical initiative first.” And on and on it went…..as one person after another came up with a reason why we could NOT legalize cannabis in California in 2014.
I cannot remember feeling more defeated and disturbed in a long time. The thought of waiting another 4 years to put forth an initiative in California makes me literally want to cry. I came to terms with the debacle of 2012, and have moved on. I am inspired by the effort in Colorado, and was more hopeful that our community could pull it together in California by 2014.
Maybe they still can, but for all accounts, it seemed the majority of the reformers were leaning towards 2016. For me….I cannot even begin to think about weed being illegal still in another four years. That is just nuts to me.
It is a position that lacks courage, but more so, it lacks integrity. The thought that we have given up on legalization in California for the 2014 election in 2012 is insanity.
Admittedly I had to excuse myself from the meeting early from a mild panic attack, and missed the last hour of the festivities. Maybe they came around and have decided to pursue sound strategies for an initiative in 2014; but upon my exit there was still a lot of head shaking and choreographed disbelief when anyone mentioned the thought of a 2014 voter initiative. I could not wrap my head around it.
Here we are with more momentum than we have ever had in our collective lives; and the plan is to wait 4 years? HUH? Did I miss something? Colorado won with 55% of the vote. That is not just because of the Presidential Election year. That is because in 2010 Richard Lee had the courage to put Prop. 19 on the ballot, and CHANGED THE DEBATE on adult use legalization.
The past two and a half years have been a barrage of media coverage and positive sentiment towards legalizing weed. There has been no shortage of people standing up and calling for an end to these disastrous policies. We have seen a sea change in the way people discuss marijuana in our society. The walls of prohibition are crumbling around us…..but sure, let’s wait until 2016 to make any real efforts towards change. Weird.
Some have called me an idealist. I am okay with that.
As the world passes our movement by, and I see people who I respect parroting the wishes of the cannabis rich and famous, I cannot help but feel like I am on a different planet. An alternate reality, where people refuse to recognize the obvious and acknowledge the truth. Where people have shrouded themselves in what they want to hear, and what they believe, so much that they have become blind and deaf to the world around them. It is frustrating.
As I walked out of the room, I began to wonder if I would ever be back; or if I ever could be a part of a coalition. Maybe I was doomed to an independent existence that would not be deterred by group think.
I understood that I would likely not be a part of this coalition, at least…..and I was okay with that.
I can tell you for sure there will NOT be a 2016 initiative. I just do not see it.
If you have no idea how long 4 years is, look at it in terms of Facebook. In 2008, Facebook only had 100 million users- today it has well over a billion and has a presence on nearly every website in the world. In 2008, MySpace was the most popular social media site. You were probably rocking an iPhone 3G or had no idea what a smart phone even was.
In 2008, even Richard Lee did not know prop. 19 was a possibility.
So forgive me if I am a little weary of committing to an initiative four years from now. I will commit to 2016 no sooner than November 15, 2014. For now, I am still holding out hope for 2014; or better yet….an entire collapse of the laws against weed and a real restructuring of how we do policing in this country in regards to drugs.
I do not see our society allowing this charade to go on for another four years. The drums of freedom are beating too loud to ignore. We are at a great moment in history and a zeitgeist for weed.
So to those who want to continue to promote continuing down the medical path for another few years while we patiently wait for the presidential election, all I can say is “Good Luck With All That.” You wanna talk “writing on the wall” for a while?….when will people ever get serious?
I am going to say this once, and once only…..after adult use passes 95% of cannabis users will suddenly get better. I just do not see everyone going to the doctor unless their is an incentive in the form of extra plant numbers allowed, or less taxes paid. Someone even said last night, the 18-20 year-old kids will still be medical…..great. Glad to know that is your target audience.
You can be mad at me for saying it if you want. But the fact that when a lot of folks fail to recognize certain realities that we face, it is hard to have serious discussions about plans and strategies in that context. If we are going to continue to play the “there is nothing to see here” game, I do not have a lot of time and energy for that.
The best phrase I heard last night was from an great activist who said “There will always be an excuse to wait.” Well, from where I was sitting, it seemed like there was a million of them.
I cannot thrive in an environment that I do not understand. I apologize to the group for wasting their time. I wish them well in their collective and unified efforts. To me….Excuses suck.
From: Weed Activist – December 5, 2012
Source: http://weedactivist.com/2012/12/05/save-money-end-prohibition/ SAVE MONEY- End Prohibition
December 5, 2012 *in End the Drug War
With all of the discussion being had about our bloated national debt and the need for drastic spending cuts, I am extremely surprised there is not more discussion happening about the costs of the drug war and the price of incarcerating five times as many folks as the rest of the world.
Where have we gone so wrong as a nation that the discussion of rational policy where drugs and imprisonment are concerned has become so taboo, that even when we are discussing MASSIVE cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and education at the peril of allowing the most vulnerable to slip through the cracks in the name of the almighty dollar, it is somehow not even on the table for discussion to maybe take some money away form the disastrous policies that have bankrupted our nation; not just fiscally but morally?
The Drug Enforcement Agency alone sucks up $2.4 billion dollars a year. Now I am not a math genius, but from where I am sitting, a $2.4 billion dollar expenditure that yields ZERO positive results for our country is a HUGE waste of resources. Since the DEA was established in July of 1973 there has been NO real change in the amount of people who abuse drugs, nor the availability of those drugs in our communities. If anything, the sensationalist and militarized forces used to combat drugs has increased the stakes so much that it has made drug dealing more lucrative than ever; and in turn, more of a real problem than ever. So, forgive me if I do not see the point of continuing to throw good money after bad and fund a division of the Justice Department that by all measures is terrible at their mission of stopping drug use and keeping drugs off of our streets. Over ten years (which is how all these budget dudes talk) we could save $24 billion dollars just be eliminating the DEA. All those “Libertarian- Return the powers to the states” conservatives should be thrilled about ending another Federal overreach like this, and saving our country money to boot.
But that is just the tip of the iceberg. Here is how the real money is spent on prohibition. After the DEA wastes your money flying around in helicopters making themselves feel important by chasing some weedhead growers around the hills and “investigating” known weedheads for years on end, only to execute some weakly evidenced search warrant on some unsuspecting pot growers, the real fun begins. Then this person is put into custody of the US Marshall service and their “case” begins. This case involves a Pre-Trial Services officer who is assigned to the case to basically put the person on probation before ever being convicted of anything. These folks get to invade your privacy, expense gas money for driving to your house every week, and waste TONS of money drug testing anyone and everyone who states they have ever used weed in their life, regardless of if they are even charged with a drug crime.
So get that. We have already spent the resources of an investigation and execution of a raid. We add the salary of an officer that is assigned to watch people out on bail to make sure they are living a good life until trial. That person spends massive resources making sure he is doing his job, which includes stacks of unnecessary paperwork that is seldom even reviewed, and incredible amounts of drug testing at $80 a pop. But then there are the attorneys.
Since most of the people we arrest for selling drugs are poor people, not a lot of them have fancy big name attorneys. Most are forced to use court appointed counsel, in the form of a public defender. Now Federal public defenders are good attorneys, and most are handsomely compensated , including a robust benefits package. They do not make crazy money; but it is not chump change by any means. We pay thousands of these defenders to defend people against our drug laws, and we pay even more for folks to prosecute them. Mind you, there is still no real progress EVER made in curbing drug abuse or availability.
Then there is imprisonment costs. Did you know that just the US Bureau of Prisons costs us a whopping $6.8 billion dollars a year to house roughly 220,000 inmates- or 1 in every 1500 people. That is an astronomical number. AND…that is just Federal prison. Add in state and local prison populations and the rate is almost 10 times that- over 2 million people, or about 1 in ever 150 folks in the country. It dwarfs the rate of any other nation on the planet by a longshot. We lock up 25% of the world’s prison population, but only have 5% of the actual population. But nobody wants to talk about the HUGE waste of resources that go to solving no problem?
The New York Time recently did a piece called *Too Many Prisoners*
Last fall, the United States Sentencing Commission issued a comprehensive report
That is an incredible explosion of costs that have taken place over the last 20 years. Think about that. TRIPLING of Federal prisoners in two decades. WOW! Are there that many more criminals, or have we stacked the deck against poor and desperate people? These policies prey on the poor and less fortunate who are often lured into the lucrative black market of drug dealing to compensate for the lack of opportunity in their poverty stricken areas. We have left people hungry and cold, and then wonder why they may resort to selling some weed to make ends meet. Then we snatch them off the streets at will, sentence them to draconian mandatory sentences, often for decades, to perform slave labor fo .30 cens an hour.
Then add in the cost of parole and probation to watch people for another few years, in which many are violated and sent back to prison, and you have a GINORMOUS problem.
Yeah…that is your reality, America. You have been duped into back door slavery by the “save the children from drugs” lies that have resulted in terrible policies and the alarming imprisonment of many of our neighbors for drugs. It must end.
To add insult to injury, we turn this slave labor over to private corporations for a minimal fee, and essentially we are paying to feed and house their workers, so they can pay them crap to build hummers and lawn furniture. Here is an excerpt from an article entitled Prison Labor Cheats Society:
Many corporations, whose products we consume on a daily basis, have learned that prison labor can be as profitable as using sweatshop labor in developing nations. You might have had a first-hand experience with a prison laborer if you have ever booked a flight on Trans World Airlines, since many of the workers making the phone reservations are prisoners. Other companies that use prison labor are Chevron, IBM, Motorola, Compaq, Texas Instruments, Honeywell, Microsoft, Victoria’s Secret and Boeing. Federal prisons operate under the trade name Unicor and use their prisoners to make everything from lawn furniture to congressional desks. Their Web site proudly displays “where the government shops first.” Federal safety and health standards do not protect prison labor, nor do the National Labor Relations Board policies. The corporations do not even have to pay minimum wage. In California, inmates who work for the Prison Industrial Authority earn wages between 30 and 95 cents per hour before required deductions for restitutions and fines.
Yup…read it and weep. The fancy negligee you bought the Misses for christmas at Victoria’s Secret was made by some kid who was busted for weed in Louisiana. Wear it proudly because slave labor supplemented by US tax dollars paid for it…and they still charge you $50 a bra? Unbelievable. And none of those are the REAL costs associated with prohibition. The REAL costs come from the toll this takes on our society. We have created an entire class of criminal where there was none, for what should be a health matter on most occasions. We are not busting drug lords. We are busting poor people with drug habits and taking many years of their lives away for their addiction, or poor judgement. These folks are scarred for life, both mentally and emotionally. They lose their standing in the community and any chance of upward mobility. We remove their right to better themselves through educational funding, and we remove them from society for long periods of times. These folks also have families. Their children and loved ones suffer greatly from their absence. This puts strains on the family, and often results in parents growing up with one parent in the house. Studies show that this also results in more crime, and the cycle continues. The REAL cost comes in human existence and the right to survive. We have used our drug laws as a way to oppress many, and we have created a society where violence and crime is the norm- not the exception it should be. We are all engaged in these evil policies, and should be ashamed. But this is also very expensive. So forgive me if I do not take you “fiscal cliff” discussion on face value, when you do not even have the courage to address the costs of prohibition and mass incarceration. If these folks would rather take health coverage and support from the elderly and disabled, than face our real problem with prohibition head on, then I cannot take any of them seriously as being committed to real deficit reduction, or revenue increases. You wanna talk saving money? Let me know when a serious discussion about the bazillion dollars we spend on this crap is being had, so I can begin to pay attention. Any discussion of fiscal responsibility that does not include the drug war is an absolute disservice to this nation and its citizens.